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They can’t help themselves, can they.

Real quick, someone tell me what Israel was doing in Africa during the Cold War? And what they’re doing now by sterilizing African Jews and having IDF train American police departments? Gee, sure is curious why their supporters seem to match this rhetoric.

I sure hope more Western chauvinists show their asses like this. I’m sure it will go well with the people of color in the West as well as all the African nations they’re trying to appeal to (lest they get seduced by big bad China).

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[–] glibg10b@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (8 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_Freedom_Fighters

During a 2016 political rally, EFF leader Julius Malema stated, "We are not calling for the slaughter of white people, at least for now."

While still the ANCYL leader, Malema was taken to the Equality Court by AfriForum for repeatedly singing "dubul' ibhunu", meaning "shoot the Boer".

South Africa's Independent Electoral Commission disqualified EFF councillor Thabo Mabotja from the 2016 local elections due to a tweet by Mabotja calling for the hacking and killing of white South Africans.

Speaking at a political rally in 2018, Malema told supporters to "go after a white man", a reference to Nelson Mandela Bay mayor Athol Trollip, adding that "we are cutting the throat of whiteness".

Following the death of former Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe, Malema tweeted a number of controversial quotes from the late Mugabe that were malicious towards white people, most notably "The only white man you can trust is a dead white man".

The South African Minority Rights Equality Movement initiated a court case against Malema for inciting racial sentiment by stating that a "majority of Indians are racist" at an EFF Youth Day rally in 2018.

The EFF was criticised by the South African Council of Churches, the Ahmed Kathrada Foundation, and the ANC for comparing Public Enterprises Minister Pravin Gordhan to a "dog" whilst protesting against the Zondo Commission inquiry into government corruption. The EFF also accused the anti-corruption investigators of being members of an "Indian cabal" commenting on the presence of Indian South Africans making up the investigative team.

EFF leadership and its supporters have been criticised for using Gordhan's second name, Jamnadas, as a racial dog whistle to highlight to his Indian ethnicity in a pejorative way and question his status as a South African on social media.

Anthony Mathumba, an EFF councillor of the Makhado Local Municipality, is currently in court for hate speech. In June 2020, he is alleged to have created a Twitter account where he pretended to be a white woman and made racist comments to black women.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

at least for now

Lol

[–] pisstoria@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So you think this justifies the incredible racism shown in the original post? None of this is relevant to what was posted.

[–] glibg10b@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

No, I don't. Yes, it's relevant.

The post spreads awareness about a racist South African political leader, and I'm spreading awareness about another one.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So... whataboutism?

Really struggling to see any point here beyond "Oh there's racism directed at South Africa? Well here's a racist from South Africa!"

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

The post spreads awareness about a racist South African political leader

jesse-wtf No, it's about a South African political leader being pro-Palestine. Zionism is racism and Israel is an apartheid state.

[–] RamrodBaguette@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Racist" is when you side against the country that supported the same Apartheid regime that oppressed you.

In any case, I'm not surprised in the least the same people expressing concern for South African "white genocide" also back Israel on this.

[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

The post spreads awareness about a racist South African political leader

countdown

[–] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Kill the whites? Yeah that's a good statement. I see no issues there

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Nah, there's no excuse for supporting genocide.

This sort of statement in the U.S. gets a pass from some U.S. leftists because of how disenfranchised black Americans are, and how far the U.S. is from any anti-white political movement gaining power. If a political party has any sort of real power -- as is the case here -- it should be a red line for any leftist.

[–] Aryuproudomenowdaddy@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They do have a point about the non Indian comments. Never trust a bleach demon.

[–] JK1348@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

I love this guy, fuck yeah

[–] WayeeCool@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yeah. even African countries have fringe right wing parties that give the ones in the west a run for their money. never any material solutions and only thing they can offer is making everyone else seem reasonable. entertaining as long as they don't get real political power.

[–] Vientanh@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago (2 children)

EFF and Malema are Trotskyists

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

The EFF don't have an ideology outside of general left wing populism. One day the EFF is quoting Sankara, the next day they're living it up on private yachts, one day they're pro LGBT rights, then the next day they invite a homophobic leader to give a speech, one day they're pan Africanist, the next they're saying xenophobic things about foreign workers.

[–] RamrodBaguette@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Malema just needs to build a cult of personality around himself then the EFF will become the vanguard for African Peronism.

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago
[–] RamrodBaguette@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

This is tangential to the ANC-aligned president of SA making a statement of solidarity, but I still want to comment.

The EFF's racial populism (in spite of their efforts to try to reach out to other ethnic groups, including whites, particularly recently) is an unfortunate result of the racial antagonisms that the ANC failed to address. That said, it's currently the most likely South African party to be transformed into an actual vanguard, even if it's far from it now.