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From a third worldist perspective, many would argue that Trotskyists with the theory of "permanent/world revolution" put the cart before the horse so to speak, in that they do not accept the limitations of "building socialism in one country" and the reality of where many third world/global south/periphery countries start from, which is a rock bottom capitalist economy structured for exploitation by the imperial core/centre - see Micheal Parenti "not poor but over exploited" - and the contradictions that will occur because of this, when on a path towards socialism and dismantling this form of capitalism, contradictions such as stagism/two stage theory/new democracy.
I personally have no problem with Trotskyists as long as they are not overly sectarian or overly critical of states actually attempting to build socialism. It's perfectly fine to have theoretical disagreements. As long as they're still on the left, it's all good.
i sure would like to meet those Trots in person cause I sure haven't.
I don't think I've ever met any kind of trot in person
ill admit i only know of two, but one of them gifted me Fascism what it is and how to fight it, and it was filled with so much whining about "Stalinism" i couldnt help but laugh, mostly because the Trots I know are firmly against any AES. Modern day Trots want the revolution, but also every revolution that has happened has been bad. They are like anarchists when it comes to saying "red fascism" way too fucking much.
Only trots I know were transphobes/terfs
I have only spoken at any length to one, but he was very quick to tell me that China was not socialist, and that it is state capitalist and ccp evil.
it would appear that it's impossible for them to agree with any successful revolutions. Trotsky was the first commie edgelord who got BTFO and then kept screaming "i would have done it better!" while he does shit like tour fascist Italy.
Michael Hudson, who is the godson of Trotsky for those who don’t know. Hudson is an exception to all those stereotypes (to be fair, he’s probably not so much ideologically a Trotskyist apart from his family background, but he sure likes to throw shade at the “Stalinists”)
Hi nice to meet you
you aint in person!
I am'nt
This is a great response