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submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by Infamousblt@hexbear.net to c/chapotraphouse@hexbear.net

If even one of you gets a post removed during one of these bit struggle sessions you failed the bit and should feel immense shame. Doing a bit successfully is Praxis.

Find things to struggle about that doesn't get out of hand. It's important to let off some steam now and again but do it in a way that doesn't harm your fellow comrades or add work to the mod team.

I'll start: Some beans are better than other beans. Like kidney beans are bad nasty icky beans but black beans are actually amazing.

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[-] CrushKillDestroySwag@hexbear.net 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Decimalization is a plague wrought upon our society by bourgeois liberals, while traditional units of measurement were refined over thousands of years by the proletariat through practical use to be applicable to the real world.

Consider money. You have a mutual aid program with one thousand dollars that it needs to give to three equally-needy people. How the fuck are you going to give each of them $333.33 repeating money? Absolute bullshit.

The old money system was far more rational. Two-hundred forty pennies to a dollar was a pretty common way to break it up. That breakup allowed each dollar to be split evenly among 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10, 12, 15, 16, 20, 24, 30, 40, 48, 60, 80, 120, and 240 of your fellow workers. Compare that to the modern, decimalized dollar, which can only be split evenly between 2, 4, 5, 10, 20, 25, 50, and 100 of your fellow proletarians.

It's not just money that suffers from decimalization though, it's damn-near everything. What the fuck is 30 centimeters? Oh, it's about as long as a foot. Why not just use a foot? Do you know how long a foot is? It's about as long as A FUCKING FOOT! HOW MUCH IS 235 MILLILITERS? IT'S ABOUT AS LARGE AS A CUP! ISN'T OUR SYSTEM IS SO MUCH MORE LOGICAL THAN THE OLD SYSTEM OF A CUP BEING ABOUT AS LARGE AS A CUP!

You might be thinking "oh you're just a dumb provincial American, get used to the metric system and it isn't so bad." Motherfucker the beautiful thing about the old measurement system is that you never have to "get used" to fucking anything, because the measurements are based on practical shit. The only practical measurement in the whole fucking metric system is the liter, and that's because they made it almost indistinguishable from a quart.

BuT hOw MaNy QuArTs ArE iN a GaLlOn? Listen here you common core chucklefuck. Saying that it's easier to remember metric because it's all in tens or hundreds or whatever is just pasting a bandaid over the problem, which is that our education system has had all practical skills systematically rooted out of it. I remember taking Home Ec when I was in middle school and I damn well learned what all of the common measurements were by applying them to real life shit. This metric bullshit is designed to be easier to memorize when you read about it in a textbook.

Who would design this disaster? The French took a break from their rampant Islamophobia and Antisemitism to create this bullshit. But it wasn't the French people, who continued to use traditional units of measure until the new systems were forced upon them, it was the post-revolutionary Bourgeoisie, who had never cut wood or measured flour in their fucking lives, who said "hon hon, let us introduce a new measurement system, oi oi" and infected the world with this plague.

Metric is idealistic nonsense imposed by rich assholes that is increasingly being favored over the materialist, proletarian traditional measurements. The only reason it has any continuing cultural purchase at all is because PMC dipshits like to lord how much smarter they are over everyone. Look inside yourself and destroy any vestige of a hold the metric system has on you, just as through self reflection you should seek to destroy all other forms of liberalism.

spoiler(this is like 50/50 a bit and my actual preference)

(normally I like to argue with people over this but I've actually got stuff to do today so i won't be replying)

[-] TraumaDumpling@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

pretty much every single profession that needs to measure things (i.e. carpenters, construction, engineering, soldiers, etc.) uses metric. this customary measurement thing is a 4chan meme with no basis in reality and betrays a serious lack of participation in or knowledge of the daily realities of actual physical work or science. the USSR used metric. China uses metric. Cuba uses metric. The only countries which do not use metric are Liberia, Myanmar, and the USA. the 'foot' is not actually as long as most people's foot, it is defined the same arbitrary way as metric lengths, via standardization to a specified measure (often a specific amount and configuration of some material in some specific conditions) with an international institutions decree.

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 6 points 10 months ago

actually, a "foot" and other imperial measurements are now defined by metric measurements, so they don't have to haul around their stupid metal bars in specific temperatures to check xi-lib-tears

[-] edge@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

pretty much every single profession that needs to measure things (i.e. carpenters, construction, engineering) uses metric

I don't know what country you're talking about, because all three of those definitely use customary in the US.

[-] TraumaDumpling@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

https://www.quora.com/Is-the-US-imperial-system-of-measurement-better-than-the-metric-system

In reality, any American companies and industries that depend on international trade are already metric (try to fix most recently made American cars or appliances without metric tools). The US military operates more and more based on metric because they have to be interoperable with all their allies. The medical field and the pharmaceutical industries both operate in metric.

https://www.quora.com/What-professionals-in-the-US-only-use-the-metric-system-in-their-work

Well, there are some that use primarily metric but not exclusively metric.

For example, automotive engineers have been designing car engines and parts since the 80’s or so all in metric. But they still need to use some USCS measures. People still want to see specs like MPG and 0–60 mph times and torque in Ft-pounds.

Medical professionals use metric for all measurements and lab tests, and particularly prescription strengths - liquid volumes in ml and ingredient masses in mg. But in a throwback, they still take height and weight in lbs and ft-inches because the customer recognizes those numbers.

Most technical work and scientific research is done with metric. But some things are very resistant. Many electrical engineering standard components are traditionally in inch measures, and some still continue, so while circuits are measured in metric volts amps coulombs, PCB layout and packaging (std. 19″ racks) for example is a mix of both.

Aviation is still done in USCS worldwide, because aviation originated extensively in the USA and English is the defacto language of pilots.

(note: apologies for the source but my only other option was :reddit-logo: )

[-] edge@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago

carpenters

Floors are measured in square inches.

construction

Building materials are in customary, screws and nails are in customary. Room dimensions are feet, living area is sq ft, roofs are “squares” which is just 100 sq ft. Doors, windows, stairs, all ft and inches. Piping is in inches. Just about every aspect of construction uses customary.

engineers

Some of the above apply to various engineering disciplines. Streets are measured in feet, land area is acres.

The US is dominated by customary. Scientific and medical are of course in metric, but I never said otherwise,

[-] TraumaDumpling@hexbear.net 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

even if you are right about this specific point, metric is still far superior. its not like every other country beyond america, liberia, and myanmar have exclusively shit architecture because their poor capenters and construction workers can't use US customary units. it clearly works, at worst it is an arbitrary and equally useful system of units, and at best it is far superior for international communications, mass production, conversions, scaling, etc.

every other country in the world has figured this shit out lmao, this reactionary take against the metric system is pure 4chan anti-intellectualism and nothing more.

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago

I don't know what country you're talking about

The only countries which do not use metric are Liberia, Myanmar, and the USA

[-] edge@hexbear.net 6 points 10 months ago

Fahrenheit is based on humans, Celsius is based on water.

0F is about as cold as the average person can handle (with warm clothes), 100F is about as hot as the average person can handle. 100 is of course also about our internal body temperature.

Fahrenheit also divides nicely into groups of 10s. "The temperature is going to be in the 80s today, so wear light clothes."

Meanwhile in Celsius, at 0 you have to put on a medium coat, at 100 you're literally boiling alive.

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 8 points 10 months ago

felt temperature is wildly variant on conditions and between different people. boiling point of water is consistent and predictable.

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