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genuinely the hardest part of arguing with is explaining the difference between using an ad-hominem argument and just being extensively insulting. Not because it's particularly hard to define an ad hominem argument and create examples, just because the are so deep set.
"I'm not saying you're wrong BECAUSE you're stupid, I'm saying you're wrong AND you're stupid."
It's also a deliberate obfuscation because so much discourse on isn't about the intellectually honest search for the truth, it's about getting community support by reinforcing the majority consensus, within which saying "Hey you insulted me no fair" makes you sound peevish and weak while saying "that's an ad hominem therefore you are wrong" adds to the collective veneer of sophistication and helps head off any actual engagement with the content.