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https://teddit.zaggy.nl/r/Psychonaut/comments/18mth6c/peyote_is_the_darling_of_the_psychedelics/

Honestly this whole thread is a cesspool, pure psychic damage. There are literally functional alternatives, but still these self-enlightened egolords can't keep their fucking hands off an endangered plant. The prevailing attitude looks to be "Its there, so I i am entitled to plunder it"

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[–] Othello@hexbear.net 45 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

also if you use magic mushrooms you have a moral duty to know what happened to María Sabina

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 27 points 11 months ago

aww what the hell, fuckin kkkrackers

[–] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

TIL about the MKUltra connection to what happened to her

[–] Othello@hexbear.net 14 points 11 months ago (1 children)

thats the part that gets me!! how is the cia at the crime of EVERY bad thing in Latin America.

[–] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 12 points 11 months ago

If something happened in South America in the last 80 or so years, "CIA did it" is an appropriate response 99% of the time.

[–] PosadistInevitablity@hexbear.net 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Tbh whites should not use magic mushrooms at all.

[–] dat_math@hexbear.net 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Tbh whites should not use magic mushrooms at all.

How deep does this argument go? Should white people also not use synthetic psilocybin as a migraine prophylactic? Psilocybin or derivatives shouldn't be used to treat depression?

I agree that the dominant psychedelic culture (especially in amerikkka) fucking sucks, is riddled with abuse

I guess I'm just having trouble following the argument that because the CIA and associated colonizers committed atrocious acts to Sabina and her family and community every other imperial subject should cease using a compound (or derivatives) that humanity has historically used in Europe, Asia, and Africa.

[–] Othello@hexbear.net 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

i read somewhere i cant find it now, that it didnt matter if outsiders use the drug because the magic has already been killed k-pain but if the indigenous people thats use it say otherwise or change their mind yes 100% no question. anyone using peyote outside of the church approval is i giant piece of shit.

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 10 points 11 months ago

anyone using peyote outside of the church approval is i giant piece of shit.

hell yeah i love giving religious orders authority over non-adherents

[–] PosadistInevitablity@hexbear.net 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

White governments are keeping this shit a felony in the first place. I'd think ending the criminalization of indigenous substance use is necessary before moving forward with anything.

[–] Othello@hexbear.net 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

im talking morally not legally, obvi i dont want the state involved.i agree

[–] Commiejones@hexbear.net 1 points 10 months ago

downbear There are psilocybin mushrooms that are native to Europe that have been used by"white people" for millennia.

Gate keeping who is allowed to use psychedelics based on their race is fuckling stupid. Should African Americans be barred from smoking weed if they aren't practicing Hinduism?