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[–] the_itsb@hexbear.net 18 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Turanian? I would've thought Nemedian or Poitainian over them. Aquilonian even.

what do any of these words mean

I don't want to go down a white supremacist Google hole, which I fully expect to happen if I just search them blindly

could someone who is a little more online please tell me wtf any of those proper nouns mean?

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

what do any of these words mean

Conan universe setting from this essay. Though contrary to what you might expect, it served (especially outside anglo world) to ridicule those XIX century chud myths by turning them into full fiction. Like i never meet anyone seriously proposing bullshit like hyperborea, atlantis and antediluvian world seriously since everyone know its from book about Arnold Schwarzenegger.

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 13 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Turanian

my best guess on this is that they're substituting "aryan" for turanian to avoid the nazi-coding. Turan is an iranian term for east-of-iran based on a legendary figure. as indo-iranian(aryan) split into iranian and indo-aryan in the general area of Turan i suppose the nazis probably think there was a central-asian atlantis of white people over there or something

the other two terms first results are from conan the barbarian lmao

[–] the_itsb@hexbear.net 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

thank you, that was sadly illuminating

seems like all the weird, vaguely shitty dudes I knew in my 20s all somehow banded together to form an openly shitty, truly reprehensible club

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 10 points 10 months ago

i'm probably giving them too much credit based on the conan references in the other terms, lol. a guy makes some dumb books that reference quack historiography and a few decades later a handful of nazis think its gospel lmao

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Turan exist in Conan setting too as state similar to Ottoman Empire mixed with old Turk Khaganate.

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

there's like nothing alike between the ashina and osmanuglu but it's funny an early 20th century person tried to relate them, lmao

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 11 points 10 months ago

He didn't really put any thought in it since iirc something like one story happens there for a brief time, it's mostly aesthetic torn between "ancient nomadic people" and "mysterious oriental empire"

And you don't even need to go to early XX cetury person, for some reason i see every now and then in the internet people entartaining panturkic ideas who also do this, but in all seriousness.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 13 points 10 months ago

I recognize some from Robert E. Howard's Conan stories. He drew inspiration for the fictional setting from the popular pseudo-history of the antediluvian world (before the biblical flood) which included ideas about Atlantis with helping of race science.

I'm guessing white supremacist are taking long forgotten fake history from like the 20's at face value shrug-outta-hecks