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Listen, this user is a terminally online anarchist who complains about tankies and calls Stalin genocidal. But shes correct about this one. Mostly. I mean using the term "bedtime abolition" sounds dumb but Im pretty sure she only did that because its a common joke about anarchists. The core point is about how 9-5 work schedules dont work for everyone. As an ND person who struggles with culturally normal sleep schedules, I absolutely agree that society needs to accomodate these things. I absolutely agree that its literally normal talk everyone says that work schedules suck.

People saying "just go to bed on time" or "just pop a melatonin" have never been in the position of trying to do that and failing, just laying awake for hours until you finally fall asleep two hours before you need to be up.

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[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 35 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The problem is not just the 9-5 society (or more like 7-3 if you're working in construction or similar). These received schedules doesn't work for everyone and that is a problem. But the problem is also that there is simply not enough time for sleep in most people's daily schedules, no matter at what time of the day you put it.

If you have a full time job and a commute and you have housework and other chores that needs to be done for things to function and you also want to have the luxury of feeling like a person with some kind of agency to decide what you want to use your time on, even if it is just for a little while, then you rarely have the time to also get eight hours of uninterrupted sleep. This gets even worse if you have children.

The only way the ruling liberal-conservative ideology can engage with the problem is to turn it into a question of individual moral shortcomings and shame people for taking a little leisure time for themselves at the end of the day. "Why are you complaining about being sleep deprived, you ungrateful peasant? Just do nothing but work and sleep."

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 22 points 10 months ago

Much agreed. Though I'm sure timing of sleep matters to some, for me the reality is that I feel tired no matter when I go to bed, because most days I don't feel capable of sparing the 8 hours of sleep I need. It takes me a long time to chill out from the anxiety that work and financial chores stir up in me so I rarely really reach the point of genuinely 'relaxing' after work.

Revenge bedtime procrastination is also a big part. I deserve to enjoy some of my life dangit >:(

[–] Tunnelvision@hexbear.net 10 points 10 months ago

or more like 7-3 if you're working in construction or similar

Believe me it’s still 7-5 and it’s fucking bullshit.