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I TOLD YOU WHAT IS TO BE DONE   lenin-rage

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[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 35 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)

I think I've said this about libs 4 years ago too, but its astonishing to me that they believe they are one election away from "authoritarian" dictatorship and "losing their democracy."

Putting aside that the US already isn't a democracy, what do they think is going to happen? Trump gets elected and... what? He already got elected and it was the same as every other republican admin i remember (and in every meaningful way the same as every dem admin). What is he going to do, not listen to the parlimentarian? What do the even imagine?

[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 18 points 9 months ago

he could nominate another Supreme Court Justice!! not that we'll do anything to limit the power of the 9 unelected law wizards.

[–] axont@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago

They think Trump will suspend all elections and ban Democrats from existing. Or they think he'll erase the conditions necessary to be a liberal. Or he'll embarrass liberals in front of their fancy European peers. American liberals conceive of themselves as perpetual underdogs, only ever just achieving victory. They conceive conservatives as the natural state of the universe. They consider conservatives not as a historical feature or representing certain economic classes, they see conservatives as representing baseline humanity. It's what humanity is without culturally instructed liberalism, basically. They're logic and reason people who believe they're overcoming "human nature" through dissemination of cultural liberalism.

So they think people like Trump are the antithesis of this project and they'll make liberalism extinct, forever. I'm pretty sure this is why they conceive of us as the same thing as conservatives, or why they throw around the word authoritarian. Because we're also opposed to liberals operating governance.

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 8 points 9 months ago (1 children)

It's especially hilarious they're using the argument about a person who was already elected and then voted put 4 years later.

They tried to do something about it, and it took 1 security guard firing 1 gun 1 time to get them to immediatly all go home when they realized there was actually a chance for negative consequences for them.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 5 points 9 months ago

Exactly! He was already elected and voted out. What do they think will happen? I suppose its a similar logic to "Biden isn't an authoritarian so he can't do anything, but if we vote harder then he will next term"