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[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 19 points 7 months ago (3 children)

So here's the thing as I see it: conservatives have/(I argue) had lightning in their hands with memes about avoiding taxes. That shit is funny as fuck. Evading the IRS agent, capsizing your boat, etc. are all a really good playing field to get people to warm up to your side. I don't think they did a good job making sure that stayed in the zeitgeist because it's so much easier to think of conservatives as people who don't like woke things. So instead of seeing them desparados and cowboys, you see a black person in media, roll your eyes, and think "my weird uncle would hate this." Bringing the taxes back up probably has diminishing returns because now it just looks like another bid to get you to dislike shit.

Now you have another battlefield where there's a "national divorce" where, by some stroke of luck, the left ended up with beer, football, and tomboys ( jesse-wtf ). However, the idea is that the right got boobs in the divorce. So now you have a chance, as a conservative memer, to go "oh my god, the right likes to princess carry and look down at the boobs, the left likes to be princess carried." Unfortunately, you as a conservative, are not normal about women and instead like to get into diatribes defining womanhood (but DEFINITELY not gender expression). The main thrust at the moment is going to be talking about BODACIOUS ta-tas and how 1950s coded this woman is. Oh my god she's so bubbly and no other woman in my life acts bubbly. You can never be the party where women are free to express themselves because, frankly, you're the people who want to have a say in their healthcare. You would rather the single family unit be the main building block of society (you're not even the party of the clan). At best you're Colby Covington with paid models, but Megan Thee Stallion is never going to be scantily clad for freedom the way she is for anime.

So even if it could work and you could have a fierce competitor for national popularity, you won't. They're not cool. They can never be cool. Even country music was cooler before conservatives got ahold of it.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 18 points 7 months ago

None of this makes any sense, and what's annoying is this American culture war nonsense spreads to my country relatively quickly, it's incomprehensible. what-the-hell

[–] axont@hexbear.net 16 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I don't disagree with you, but my gut instinct for why they've latched onto the imagery of a big breasted blonde woman is pure transphobia. They're trying to purport women like Sweeney represent a cosmic ideal of womanhood and that anyone trans (man/woman/otherwise) will fail to meet her innate level somehow.

They're trying to circle the wagons on aesthetics I guess. They're getting weird about it, saying their preferences are universally and biologically ingrained.

Or my other suspicion is that a lot of reactionaries are closet bi/gay and are using the abstract ideal of Sydney Sweeney to hide how gay they are? I don't know. We've gotten into weird territory.

[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 24 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

it's transphobia, it's homophobia, it's misogyny, it's a little racism. the inside of their skulls looks like a septic tank.

(I don't think the Closeted Homophobe hypothesis holds for 99% of them. Rod is one of the big exceptions.)

[–] axont@hexbear.net 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

yeah, I always kneejerk go towards the closeted homophobe thing because it's been true anecdotally three times now with people from my hometown. I shouldn't lean on it so much, sorry.

I just hate these reactionaries and want them to die

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I have this tendency to look at what is happening and the implications of acting like that more than the why. That leaves me with this black box of incomprehensible emotional mush. I feel like it tracks that every time they rag against blue hair, 15 seconds later they're gonna say some "and now you don't even know what gender your car is!!" They'd have some idea to the effect of this actress being more correct and therefore more beautiful. If you're confused, you should simply strive to be like her or (let's be real, they'd like "and" instead) die trying.

Do you really think the reason boils down to pure transphobia? Not like in conjunction with some loss of a privileged position where people couldn't talk back to you?

[–] axont@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago

maybe it's immaterial of me, but recently I've been seeing almost all bigotry (transphobia, misogyny, racism, etc) as constructs of the same thing, and it's almost always a neurosis over perceived loss of patriarchal privilege. And it's a sexual thing too. You're right, I do see bigotries as connected primarily to a privileged position that comes under threat. Being gay, trans, black, or an assertive woman threatens that entire framework if those all end up being valid categories of people, which would then undermine the functions of capitalism overall

I'm also American and see it through that lens. The basic chud impulse is a thought that goes like "i don't want people to think I'm gay, because I'll lose authority if people think I'm gay." That's one of their main preoccupations and it guides their various other bigotries.

[–] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

clearly we need /c/boobs, to defeat this threat

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

How would that work? Also that'd be a perfect hunting ground for volcel-police

[–] VOLCEL_POLICE@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago

The VOLCEL POLICE are on the scene! PLEASE KEEP YOUR VITAL ESSENCES TO YOURSELVES AT ALL TIMES.

نحن شرطة VolCel.بناءا على تعليمات الهيئة لترويج لألعاب الفيديو و النهي عن الجنس نرجوا الإبتعاد عن أي أفكار جنسية و الحفاظ على حيواناتكم المنويَّة حتى يوم الحساب. اتقوا الله، إنك لا تراه لكنه يراك.

volcel-police

[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 8 points 7 months ago