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It's the dunk tank.

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Like they're so shamelessly blatant about who their reader base is nowadays I just can't

Here's the article if you want to read it I can't summon the energy pain https://web.archive.org/web/20240507210734/https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/07/magazine/retire-early-saving.html

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[–] AcidLeaves@hexbear.net 27 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (3 children)

There's absolutely nothing wrong with having healthy financial strategies, sometimes to the point of obsession, and aiming for FIRE especially given our fucked up government who doesn't care about us, as the author herself says

But every single person I've met who does this is a reactionary neoliberal

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 28 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Is it actually possible to be a FIRE grindset guy and not turn into a reactionary neoliberal?

[–] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 21 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Unless you're an entertainer or athlete or something and you can just sell your labour in a way that everyone wants to pay to consume specifically your labour you're inevitably building your wealth on the labour of poor people

[–] Hexamerous@hexbear.net 10 points 6 months ago

Yeah, FIRE is just living off dividends. If you coupled that with a steady treat supply, you're just doing labor aristocracy/petty-bourgeois shit. I doubt most of these people plan to retreat to a small house, grow their own food, fuel and stop treat consumption for sustainable living.

[–] TheWolfOfSouthEnd@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 6 months ago

I don’t follow football, but this morning I was reading a post about a somewhat local to me footballer, and how he still owns his first car, “so he doesn’t forget his roots”. There were loads of comments how much money he was worth. The man grew up in a terraced house and got where he is due to football skills. But Bezos or Richard Branson earned their money. Boggles the mind.

[–] AcidLeaves@hexbear.net 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Almost impossible, some sort of base super structure theory going on here?

Anyways I kind of did that except I didn't penny pinch, just tried to min max financial strategies (credit cards, options trading, interest rates, etc.) but like, maybe 60% of the extent of what FIRE guys do. Still way more than the average person

And tbh, yea, I did end up becoming somebody who's weird with money and wealth despite intellectually being radicalized and now I'm still trying to unlearn all of that

I was never reactionary or a neoliberal even before radicalization, I was just thinking about money far too much

[–] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] AcidLeaves@hexbear.net 3 points 6 months ago

Do you have an OF? I'll subscribe to it

[–] AcidLeaves@hexbear.net 2 points 6 months ago

On a more serious note I give very often to mutual aid posts here. If you ever make one I'll probably be one of the donors

[–] peppersky@hexbear.net 24 points 6 months ago

FIRE is just trying to speed run becoming a capitalist. It's definitely and undoubtedly wrong

[–] TheWolfOfSouthEnd@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

It isn’t just your government though. It’s all governments, more or less.

[–] AcidLeaves@hexbear.net 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Most governments give out free healthcare it's not even close