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[–] CupcakeOfSpice@hexbear.net 55 points 3 months ago (7 children)

Seriously, after being called "threat to democracy," "nazi," "dictator," etc. I don't know why "weird" seems to be so offensive to them.

[–] FishLake@lemmygrad.ml 39 points 3 months ago

Because they want to be default normal. They also want to be “threats” and “dictators” and even “Nazis” because those things sound cool to them.

[–] TemutheeChallahmet@hexbear.net 38 points 3 months ago

It makes them feel as small as they actually are rather than as big as they present themselves to be.

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 28 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

If you notice they deflect those terms to calling the left fascists, nazis, dictators, while trying to present themselves as the "normal" people and you're the weird one for thinking mask off fascism is bad.

[–] D61@hexbear.net 26 points 3 months ago

"Threat to democracy", "Nazi", "dictator" are all loaded terms that we've taken to symbolically mean "extremely bad". So its up to the person using the word to explain it. Then they're stuck trying to equate your mom saying transphobic things as being a Nazi when everybody says transphobic things.

"Weird" is much lower bar to get over.

Why are grown men, married with children of their own obsessing over the genitals of literal children? That sounds really fucking weird, normal people will have a hard time explaining how that ISN'T weird. It puts the conservatives in the position of having to explain how they aren't weird for obsessing over kids genitals instead of everybody being assumed to agree with them by default.

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 21 points 3 months ago

a driving force, especially for the weird modern rightwingers, is unable to cope with people finding them uncool. And there's a coolness factor in Nazi or Dictator or a Threat to Democracy, because to be powerful is to be a large part of being cool to them - I point towards all the alpha male tacticool or hard cowboy farm life LARP many of them pull - but they cannot conceive or ever find anything who would be called "weird" to be cool, because it's anthithetical to their entire ethos. Weird is outside of structured hierarchies, it doesn't deny them or fight them for any place in any hierarchy, it simply puts them outside of it.

[–] Barabas@hexbear.net 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

They believe that the majority secretly agrees with them but are too afraid to say it. Weird alleges that people don't.

Or to put it in other terms, they feel like they're the old Norm, they want normal beer.

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Inseparable from this posturing fascism as normal is the labeling of specific groups as minority, weird, and external groups that change society for the worse.

If the "Judeo-Bolsheviks" or "Post-modern neo-Marxists" are not weird agitators from the outside, but in fact represent the status quo, that is the direct inversion of fascist rhetoric. Simply calling the fascists bad does not hurt their feelings if they perceive the insult to be a critique against the majority from a minority group with outsized influence.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 19 points 3 months ago

Any insults coming from their enemies are negated in their moral connotation because they come from people they perceive as absolutely evil. If you're described as a Nazi by someone you think is evil, it's like you're actually a Nazi that's morally good, but with all the other attributes of a Nazi. Same for dictator, threat to democracy, etc. But being called weird just makes them, well, weird. There isn't really a moral connotation to invert. It's just an accurate statement that, even when flipped around, still stings.