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Well since marx and his antisemtic works to stalinist antisemitism to the current rush of commies who are all antisemitic cause they follow marx and stalin.

Leftist organizing is filled with antisemitism. Why won't condemn china russia or sri lanka for their genocides while only condemning israel. See this is why lot of jewish folk are feeling this anti zionism is antisemitic.

Find nuance within zionism rather than just being anti zionist as all those rabid college protestors

Banning israeli who served in the idf once is not a good look and obviously anti semitic.

Neil druckman is being unfairly maligned.

A lot of leftists praise hamas and that's as bad as idf. Y'all blindly supoort them just cause they are fighting israel. Meanwhile you all ignore sri lanka doing tamil genocide and the ccp doing uyghur genocide. But you all cheer on jewish civilians killed on oct 7.

Equating zionist to white supremacy or white people is very antisemitic. You leftists don't condemn sri lanka or china cause they are not white. This is a common stalinist tradition.

Also hamas is just has their own interests and don't care about jeopardizing palestine's future.

Zionism was not the product of its leaders. Implying they pushed it or they were powerful is antisemitic. It actually formed cause jewish folk escaped persecution and came here. It was a movement cause it has emotional appeal. Zionism is an emotion. Holocaust was the reason for all the jewish folk to form a jewish state.

Do you condemn hamas? Hamas attacks on civillians parallels nazi attacks for the average gentile. Hamas is a fundamentalist antisemitic group.

Horsehoe theory???//

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[–] hypercracker@hexbear.net 78 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (7 children)

Every time I try to seriously engage with the topic of antisemitism on the left - since, you know, antisemitism is bad and I don't want to be doing antisemitism - whatever podcast or article or whatever the fuck I read fails at nearly the first hurdle and it basically just turns out to be zionist entryism. Does anybody have not-bullshit recommendations here?

Also I fucking love arguments like:

Meanwhile you all ignore sri lanka doing tamil genocide and the ccp doing uyghur genocide

I could send out an email to the entire company I work at condemning these things and nothing would come of it. If I even hint that I don't love israel to the bottom of my soul in a company meeting I would be fired so fast my head would spin. Wow, which issue am I going to be engaging with more I wonder?

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 59 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not to mention the Uyghur genocide is fictitious

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 47 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And you can literally fly to the site of the supposed "genocide" and see the region for yourself. Wait, all these Uyghur people are just hanging out and living normal lives? Huh 🤔

Try doing that in Gaza!

[–] TechnoUnionTypeBeat@hexbear.net 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Actually what's happening there is an elite team of See See Pee actors and stagehands are carefully running ahead of every visitor and putting on elaborate stage shows that pretend to be real life just to hide the genocide obviously

[–] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 17 points 3 months ago

Its like how north Korea has cardboard buildings meant to look like grocery stores, so when non-locals try to go in they hit a wall.

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 53 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Not to mention the stark difference in evidence in regards to China's supposed genocide

We are getting live footage of atrocities from a people who have been cut off from nearly every form of communication, because it's actually really hard to hide mass murder

And the evidence for China trying to kill off the Uighurs is what? A couple of satellite photos of a roof and some easily debunked pictures that were "smuggled" out of the camps

Wrinkly gibberish, pure vibes

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 33 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Didn't you see the picture taken from inside a drainage ditch, with the gray filter applied, of a single guard outside a regular administrative building in the middle of a city? If that's not proof of genocide I don't know what is!

[–] Kumikommunism@hexbear.net 41 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Every aspect of anti-capitalist/imperialist thought steers you away from anti-Semitism. You would be hard pressed to find anti-Jewish sentiment in any active leftist space. That's of course not to say it doesn't/can't happen. But any materialist thought completely precludes the whole Jewish New World Order / banker elite conspiracy theories of the right, and we of course don't fall for the anti-Semitic trope of a collective Jewish hivemind with genocidal desires like liberals do.

My first thought would be to point you towards moments in history of sociopolitical trife / mass violence, but my first thought would be of the Holocaust, where leftists were literally the only Jewish allies, and were persecuted alongside them (not to equate the two). Even in Eastern Europe, it was only the left that organized any sort of resistance to the Nazis and Jewish killings and deportations.

But there probably is a moment in history I don't know about where a (even nominally) leftist organization or front fell into anti-semitic thoughts and actions during some struggle. That would be a good place to start. (Then again maybe there isn't.)

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 28 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Meanwhile you all ignore sri lanka doing tamil genocide and the ccp doing uyghur genocide

What kind of argument is this? "Look mom, they got genocides, why can't I have one???"

[–] Angel@hexbear.net 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Seems like a...

WHATABOUTISM!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?


smuglord

[–] WHATABOUTISM_DETECTOR@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago

Whataboutism? What about deez nuts?

[–] WaterBowlSlime@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 3 months ago

"These so-called leftists are not principled. They do not truly care about genocide and solely target Israel in particular because they are bigots."

[–] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago

Sri Lanka AES?

lol

[–] Red_sun_in_the_sky@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago

Its for saying oh they only angrily scream at israel but not sri lanka cause they are antisemitic

[–] AndJusticeForAll@hexbear.net 17 points 3 months ago

I was reading a post in here from like 3-4 years ago where they made a fresh account to concern troll about antisemitism on the left. The account never posted after that.

[–] Red_sun_in_the_sky@hexbear.net 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

You all ignore Sri lanka tamil genocide

I don't know whether she lives under some rock. I don't know who like ignores or doesn't know like one of worst atrocities in the region.

Its very bizarre to be like "oh the college protesters or vocal anti zionists don't mention genocidal regime of sri lanka, hmmm curious ". I wonder what her opinion is of the ltte.

[–] Afterthought_C@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

(sorry deleted this on accident just now)
Sri Lanka is participating in Operation Prosperity Garden meaning they are complicit in Palestinian genocide. I'm willing to bet Jessie either does not know, does not care or thinks this is good.

[–] Red_sun_in_the_sky@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago

nah she doesn't care she only brought that up to say "I don't see all these commies condemning sri lanka as rabidly as they do israel, seems antisemitic"

[–] Afterthought_C@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Sri Lanka is participating in Operation Prosperity Garden, making them complicit in Palestinian genocide. I'm willing to bet this youtube either does not know, does not care or things it is good.