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I ventured over to the website "disboard" to try to find more online friends that are at least slightly left of "hunting the poors for sport"

I came across "Leftist Alternative" and I'm 99% convinced this was a fed honeypot

https://disboard.org/server/1085633149540777994

I answered all of their "prerequisite/verification" questions. Mostly my answers were of the variety of "Amerikkka imperializes the planet for the 1%" and "it's not the left vs right, it's the 99% vs the 1%"

They gave me a LOT of push-back for not acknowledging the "genocide" in China. But it really went downhill when I said that the imperialism of Ukraine by both USA and the Russian was/is a fairly nuanced topic.

Obama Admits US Role in Ukraine Overthrow

Pro-US, Nazi-glorifying government

Ultranationalism, anti-semitism, neo-nazi pogroms, and attacks on LGBT groups.

Ultimately I ended with, "Every war is a banker's war" and included I was against any/all imperialist movements (including Afghanistan, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Syria, Yemen, Yugoslavia, Bosnia, Haiti, Congo, Liberia, and Sudan), but I could definitely see why NATO advancing, despite saying they wouldn't move a single inch towards Moscow, would incite a push from Russia to get their old trade buddy back (not to mention Blackrock/JPM front-running grain futures before the invasion and then vying to steal the mineral rights away from Ukraine in exchange to build it back up)

This really set the feds off..

"OH YOU HATE JEWS DO YA?" - 'Leftist' Alternative

"Wait... huh?" - Me

"A 'Bankers' War Huh??? We could just tell you were an anti-Semite"

"Are you insinuating.. that all Bankers are... jewish?" - Me

It immediately devolved into ad-hominems from the "lefties" so I left that right-wing hell-hole :(

Is Every "Leftist" Discord a Fed Honeypot?

Or are the lib brainwormsreally just that deeply ingrained at this point?

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[–] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

i thought at the end of the second movie, and i was convinced of this, that in the third movie they would discover that they never really escaped the matrix. that neo could do what he did because they were still in the matrix and it was all some sort of ruse to be able to let the rebeliious minds rebel without actually causing any trouble and that neo would realize this and actually break free and liberate them.

but then he was just cyber jesus in the third movie and i was super disappointed

[–] axont@hexbear.net 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

That's more or less the plot of the third movie though, isn't it? Escaping the matrix was a ruse. They're still in the Matrix in the sense that the system allows for rebels to periodically revolt and attempt liberation. The fact that the rebels escaped in the first place was all by design to mitigate a programming bug where some people always feel doubt about their reality. Probably that's supposed to mirror how capitalist liberal democracy absorbs and redirects its own critics. You're allowed to say and do whatever you want as long as it doesn't threaten the designed structure.

Neo broke the cycle because of his unaccounted love of Trinity and his desire to keep fighting despite impossible odds, despite him knowing he was a pawn in a programmed cycle. He cares deeply for his friends and Trinity and refused to be complicit in their slaughter, just for the cycle to start again. The fourth movie shows that humanity has in fact formed something more like an uneasy peace or cold war with the machines, instead of the previous cycles, so some kind of progress was made.

[–] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

no. they did escape the matrix but allowing them to escape the matrix was the plan, that part is true. but in that you arent allowed to say and do what you want in the way you say. instead they more or less quarantine them and cull them whereas in capitalism they tend to just incorporate the "rebels". if it was like you say then the whole time they would have been tshirts with neo on them in the actual matrix or some shit, right. in the fourth one this is exactly what happens. in a sense, neo liberalizes the rebels and they become a proper part of the system and no longer rebel against it.

and neo is magic, which sucked