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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by Starlet@hexbear.net to c/traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns@hexbear.net

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[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 27 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

My dad really said to me "women are strange creatures". He fr thought that would fly. My entire family thinks I am still the fifteen year old boy from like a decade ago, even though it's increasingly evident from observing me that I am Unsafe Dyke, Keep Clear.

[-] lilypad@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

Why tf would he think thats ok? (Seriously asking because my own father absolutely thinks+says shit like this)

Unsafe Dyke, Keep Clear.

I need to learn how to cultivate this energy

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago

Here is an easy starter guide:

As for WHY WHY WHY WHY shoulder-grab I have no fucking idea, again I just assume my family stopped seeing me develop at age 15. I've been sort of distant with all of them I guess, so they don't know what things I'm into now and I haven't bothered telling them I'm nonbinary, or autistic (ish, tried telling mum) or ace (probably don't need to) or whatever. But uh women are strange creatures because dad just wants to grill, I assume.

[-] lilypad@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

furiously scribbling notes thank you for the starter, this gives me much to ponder lea-think

WHY WHY WHY WHY

Ugh, just keep grillin papa, keep making food to put in your mouth so you never have to speak again.

Idk its weird my dad is simultanously likely autistic or ND in some way but also pretty fucking ableist. Idk, he was born in the 50s so it makes logical sense that hed turn out this way, its just super frustrating.

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

And ponder you should āœØ

Yeah I know though, right?? My dad is also probably adhd, autistic or both, I clearly got it from him. My dad is about that old too and madeline-sadeline y'know just, why tho...

[-] lilypad@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

meow-hug when I look at my own father, i feel like he didnt have a chance, and I try to see in his actions not his heart, which i know wishes for everyone to be happy, but rather his conditions growing up and the traumas hes unintentionally perpetuating. Maybe its pure cope, but its what I do to still be able to love him, because ultimately i do want to love him.

cw domestic violence, ableismHe grew up getting the shit beat out of him by his father (not just a paddling but like, the metal end of the belt, etc.) and being tortured by his siblings. He didnt have any support for his mental health, and likely had to mask incredibly heavily to avoid the corrective punishments meted out by 1950s steeltown society. Add on the religious trauma of a polish catholic upbringing, and its a wonder he made it as far as he has today. I think a lot of his BS is him immitating and performing things, those same performances kept him safe growing up, but today alienate him from his family and perpetuate the harm that he grew up with.

[-] magi@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

cw abuse, ableism, other stuff I'll probably mention

spoiler bad shit I grew up with a lot of abuse, I got hit with canes, belts (including with the buckle) I got hit with whatever was at hand, partly for what I learned later for autistic traits, or made an example in front of strangers when out when I didn't want to eat or something like that. I got years of this growing up and also because I'd want to not be put in the boy box, not allowed to play with anything but what I was given, i couldn't play with makeup or play with a fucking rabbit toy my sister had or a post office, because they were hers... I'd get verbal and mental/physical abuse, I have scars from it.

When I transitioned and told my mother she'd try to gaslight me they had no idea I was trans or anything of the sort, but before this I'd just have random shitty comments dropped from her or her husband "oh there was this t-slur at the market this week" then go into all detail about their thoughts on this person, that's just some of the weird random shit I'd have to put up with. I was alienated from them since my teens, they couldn't tell you anything I was into, they couldn't tell you anything about me as a person, they never had any interest in me.

I got more shit when I came out to them, and eventually I finally cut contact.

I think there's some disconnect that can happen with estranged parents. Where they don't try to understand their child, or get to know them as they grow either. So part of it could be that disconnect where they don't really understand their child as an adult and how different they are as a person. So you get slips or head empty comments here or there.

Also sorry for my trauma dump :

[-] lilypad@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

::: spoiler spoiler meow-hug im so sorry you were subjected to that.

gaslighting + shitty comments

That fucking sucks. That weird style of manipulation and judgement. My father wouldnt do stuff like that specifically in public, but when alone he would share all the weird bullshit (i remember when my stepbrother came out as a lesbian my dad was very normal about it and didnt have anything homophobic to stay at all, no sir-y bob monke-rage ^he^ ^absolutely^ ^did^ ^and^ ^even^ ^at^ ^age^ ^8^ ^i^ ^could^ ^tell^ ^it^ ^was^ ^fucked^ ^up^)

Also sorry for my trauma dump

meow-knife-trans no sorry! Only emotional support for my trans comrades! cat-trans

disconnect

Yeah, the saving grace of the relationship is that, while he doesnt understand me and doesnt seem to try to understand me, he doesnt try to box me in, or constrain me. So theres this middle ground where I can try to show up with him. But i also just dont cause most of the time it just hurts emilie-shrug i talk to him over email only at this point and we exchange an email every month or two.

[-] magi@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

spoilerMhm stuff I try not to dump too often it's bad shit recounting it, especially when a memory comes out to greet you.. thankfully I don't feel much about it now.

he doesnt try to box me in, or constrain me. So there's this middle ground where I can try to show up with him

At least that's something, if only they understood the pain they can cause.

My parents not understanding me would hurt me when I was younger but then I was afraid of them wanting to know me.. more things to use against me or hurt me like they had already. I always wanted something more than what I got from them, I put up with too much for too long.

[-] lilypad@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

::: spoiler spoiler

thankfully I don't feel much about it now.

Im glad it has less of an impact on you now, and is less painful.

My parents not understanding me would hurt me when I was younger but then I was afraid of them wanting to know me.. more things to use against me or hurt me like they had already.

denji-just-like-me

[-] magi@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

spoilerI'm pretty chill as a person and don't really get upset much (ash will confirm) it's more like the hurt is filed into it's own little box along with the anger and everything else surrounding it, it's part of me but so deep to not ever see the light of day again.

[-] MusicOwl@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago
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[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

Oh fuck, I don't have anything like this I guess. My dad got kicked out young and his dad kind of hated him on and off, so there's that I guess...

Given what your father has gone through... damn. I think I remember saying I hated your dad at some point, but it is a wonder he's still going.

[-] lilypad@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

yea he does the best with what he can. To his credit, kinda shit father but he never once hit me, like, he broke a many generations long cycle of physical abuse, and for that i am so fucking proud of him.

Yeah, you did say that, and like, youre not wrong. I fucking hate his guts. But i also love him. Its weird and complicated vivian-shrug

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

Right I recall this, knowing all that shit he does at least deserve credit, even if he is the worst fucker in so many other ways. Progress in small steps...

Wow that does sound kinda complicated niko-happy I usually cut family members off with all the hesitation of cutting low branches on a forest path, respect tho.

[-] lilypad@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

Eh, he is full of love, ive seen it and felt it, he just cannot express it very well, and its accompanied by so much other BS. I guess part of it also is that i just want my daddy back, cause he was an amazing father until i was like four or five or six and started to differentiate myself from him and not be his clone, and i really miss that niko-tear-wipe

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

That's so unfair to you, I'm sorry he's like that meow-hug

[-] MusicOwl@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

My father says the same shit while iā€™m in the room. screm-a

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago
[-] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

Oh yea mine has always said stuff like that. Sorry you're still getting treated like you were a decade ago meow-hug

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago

emilie-shrug I don't even know what to do, there's probably too much shit piled up in terms of history for me to have actual relationships with my family. When talking to people generally I am effusive and oversharey, but with my family I am weird and distant. Idk what the issue is.

[-] WalrusDragonOnABike@lemmy.today 4 points 1 month ago

Glad I have an Unsafe Dyke Keep Clear for a parent instead of a dad, so I never had to deal with that kind of BS. Thinking it would be cool if more people got to try it.

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

Thank fuck for that, I wish I had an Unsafe Dyke Keep Clear as a parent...

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