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[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 124 points 1 year ago

"Blocking Traffic" pretty much the same as "Rioting".

Lmao.

[-] Neon_Dystopia@hexbear.net 86 points 1 year ago

I'm sorry, but the carbrain is terminal, there's nothing we can do.

[-] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago

Live, eat, sleep, die in the ~~pod~~ car

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

Well there's one thing we can do cure-for-fascism

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 80 points 1 year ago

This one really gets me. Had an arguement with a irl lib friend during the George Floyd protests. They were like, "they need to be peaceful like MLK, not blocking traffic." MLK blocked traffic!!! What are you talking about!!!

[-] Kuori@hexbear.net 81 points 1 year ago

they would have hated MLK too if they had been around back then

[-] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 56 points 1 year ago

Of course, libs hate living revolutionaries, but dead ones don't do inconvenient things like support oppressed people or criticize oppressive power structures. Or as Lenin put it:

During the lifetime of great revolutionaries, the oppressing classes constantly hounded them, received their theories with the most savage malice, the most furious hatred and the most unscrupulous campaigns of lies and slander. After their death, attempts are made to convert them into harmless icons, to canonize them, so to say, and to hallow their names to a certain extent for the “consolation” of the oppressed classes and with the object of duping the latter, while at the same time robbing the revolutionary theory of its substance, blunting its revolutionary edge and vulgarizing it.

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

It's worth noting that (as Lenin notes here) it's not just liberals, it's the oppressing classes. See the conservative rehabilitation of MLK as a moderate who actually thinks there's no such thing as systemic racism.

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[-] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

MLK was constantly tarred for inciting riots (even when he didn't), for inciting property damages (which he didn't), for his followers being rude or destructive (even when they mostly weren't), and just generally painted as a violent, uppity ****** in his time

Fucking idiots

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[-] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 54 points 1 year ago

I find it funnier that some people think blocking traffic is more acceptable than burning a flag. Blocking traffic is at least a major inconvenience, burning a flag literally doesn't affect you in any way.

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

Noooooooo burning the flag will make the founding slaveowners and white jesus sad noooooooooooooooo boohoo

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[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago

Car brained freaks

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[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 90 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

>blocking traffic is the #3 worst thing anyone can possibly do

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[-] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

to be fair, almost everything on this list is extraordinarily tame and nonthreatening to power

[-] Magician@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

That's why it's on the list at all. Limit the definition of political action to the most inert things and relegate everything else to obscurity. Make change or the actions required for a better world unthinkable.

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[-] wild_dog@hexbear.net 26 points 1 year ago

people do really think this way. I was incredibly close to getting ran over by a fascist in a truck at one of the George Floyd uprising protests in my city and I had several liberal ex-friends tell me it was my fault for blocking the road.

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[-] coderade@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

people need to be blocking traffic for shits and gigs. Just walking to the grocery store and take your sweet time in the cross walk. The public space should be for people

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[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 73 points 1 year ago

I'd love to see this stacked up with an identical poll except instead of asking what is acceptable or not, ask what is effective or not. I don't think even libs are dumb enough to think any of the acceptable things are actually effective. It'd be a real telling chart.

[-] wild_dog@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago

counterpoint: yes they are that dumb. they keep telling us to VOTE despite the fact that the people they want us to vote for can't do anything.

[-] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

I dunno, usually when I press them on that they agree it's not that effective but then they double down on "it's the only tool we have" and "it's better than nothing." I think they know, I just think they don't care enough to actually do anything differently.

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[-] logflume@hexbear.net 69 points 1 year ago

i want to meet with the 5% that think creating a petition is "unacceptable"

[-] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 39 points 1 year ago

It’s me, because killing a politician is much more acceptable.

[-] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

Maybe they think that doing anything but vote is undemocratic/undermines institutions or something.

Or maybe they're an ancap and think that the only way is to shoot a mctactical nuke into the privatized former public service.

[-] wild_dog@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

or a weirdo postmodernist "actually petitions legitimize the state by creating a discourse that implies they listen to the citizens which makes them an oppressive form of biopower."

[-] Utter_Karate@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

6 % of people think it is unacceptable to call your representative. Half of those think it is not just usually, but always unacceptable.

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[-] mar_k@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago

See also:

36% of Americans support US airstrikes that explicitly kill civilians

51% of Americans support ICE raids against illegal immigrants

52% of Americans support US strikes in Mexico to fight the cartel

53% of Americans support stand your ground laws

55% of Americans support the death penalty

58% of Americans support drone strikes in general

65% of Americans have a favorable view of the CIA

82% of Americans oppose defunding the police

94% of Americans support the troops

Real pacifist crowds you got there

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[-] Noven@hexbear.net 56 points 1 year ago

They forgot to mention the most effective type of protest: yamagami

[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 40 points 1 year ago

One man, one the-doohickey

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[-] dmonzel@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago

"Feel free to protest, just not in a way that makes my life more difficult. Or in my line of sight. Or on TV. In fact, protest somewhere over there where no one can see or hear you. That's always enacted change!"

[-] wolf6152@lemm.ee 47 points 1 year ago

I don’t see guillotine the rich on this survey.

[-] Kestrel@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

we found the one good lemmee user folks

[-] privatized_sun@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago

occupying public spaces

human domestication is real its just normal neoliberal privatization

[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago

burning an American flag

It's my flag I'll do what I want

[-] viva_la_juche@hexbear.net 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yea I’m a free speech absolutist (checking always acceptable to everything)

[-] Grownbravy@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago

This shit is how I know the US is already a fascist state

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[-] FoolishFool@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The 3% that say rioting is always acceptable and the 2.5% that creating a petition is always unacceptable. lol

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[-] autismdragon@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If it makes y'all feel any better this was a really poorly administered and unscientific poll.

Sample size of 1000, based on people who responded to an e-mail, more than half of the respondents were over 45, more people over 65 than under 30. (Also apparently more Trump voters than Biden voters?)

I do think this is SOMEWHAT representative of the American mind but keep this shit in mind as well.

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[-] Maoo@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

Thanks YouGov! An ordered list of tactics from least to most effective

[-] WeedReference420@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

I really want to meet someone who thinks that signing a petition is dangerous extremism (actually maybe I don't)

[-] blobjim@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

I consider petitions to be an unacceptable form of protest.

[-] DayOfDoom@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

Judging by the graph maybe 5-10% of the US are OK people.

[-] plinky@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

~~cucks~~

potty-trained libs

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[-] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"Burning an amerikan flag" at #4 and "blocking traffic" at #3 really says it all.

Deeply diseased country.

[-] Cherufe@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

Most people are into protests

They say they aren’t until the protest starts

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[-] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

ie, we only support forms of protest that have never achieved anything in all of history

[-] dom@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

I did a survey too. It's just this survey but replace the word "unacceptable" with "most effective"

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