this post was submitted on 31 Oct 2023
219 points (100.0% liked)

chapotraphouse

13519 readers
983 users here now

Banned? DM Wmill to appeal.

No anti-nautilism posts. See: Eco-fascism Primer

Gossip posts go in c/gossip. Don't post low-hanging fruit here after it gets removed from c/gossip

founded 3 years ago
MODERATORS
all 29 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] BodyBySisyphus@hexbear.net 87 points 1 year ago (1 children)

maybe-later-honey "Many people were responsible for this failure, therefore no one can be held responsible."

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago (1 children)

"What are you gonna do, parody all of us?"smuglord

[–] WoofWoof91@hexbear.net 37 points 1 year ago

yes-comm
"now face the wall"

[–] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 68 points 1 year ago
[–] LGOrcStreetSamurai@hexbear.net 62 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

America hates black people so much man. I know this is a lot of different systemic issues but I’m a black dude and to be 💯 with it American is okay calling it quits cause they’re black. East Palestine will probably have the same fate as because they are poor, and to be poor in America is to be black.

( on the super real I’m not equating black people as inherently poor or any weird shit like that, I’m just saying Amerikkkan Kkkaptial deems black people as less than, and has done so for generations)

amerikkka

[–] Magician@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

I hear ya. The society built on the backs of slaves has spent centuries keeping wealth from Black people. Of course, the US would then by extension persecute and neglect its poorest populations who don't have the means or ability to leave because of things like Red Lining.

It's so fucked on so many levels.

[–] Judge_Jury@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

It's maddening how much the US hates black people at every level. We cultivated race-pseudoscience and colorist theology to secure support for and ignorance of white supremacism, and we have never even begun to address what has followed. We address the very worst symptoms of our implicitly racist institutions operated by explicitly racist people only when revolution looks like a real threat, and then we always double back to affirm that we never had that bad of a racism problem because we eventually did the bare minimum that we were forced to do

/rant

[–] star_wraith@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

1,000%. I’m white. If there’s one thing that makes me feel like I’m losing my mind, it’s how I know most of my fellow mayos do really hate black people - but no one ever comes out and just says it, even when there’s only around other white people. And in fact they will go out of their way to deny they have a racist bone in their body. They’re racist af but since they never actually come out and say “I think all black people should be deported to Africa”, if you try and call them out on their bullshit they get incredibly defensive and deny everything. It’s like, most white people have this vague notion that being racist is bad. But they see themselves as being good. So they can’t be racist. But they also hate black people. So they square that circle by telling themselves that so long as they don’t come out and say “I think white people are just better”, then they can’t be racist. They proscribe the definition of racism to be so narrow that they can claim that “racism is over”.

[–] RonPaulyShore@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

I know most of my fellow mayos do really hate black people

i've been a white liberal, i've been in the milieu of white liberals, i know white liberals. i don't think this is true tbh, at least in liberal circles. there's a conflation between being blind to systemic racism or structural issues and racial animus; liberals may be guilty of the former (or, may be definitionally so), but that doesn't imply the latter.

[–] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago

What a convienient time to sneak that announcement out.

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago (1 children)

One guess as to what the people who suffered the most in the Flint Water Crisis looked like us-foreign-policy

[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 1 year ago

Flint itself is majority Black just by demographics alone

[–] Cummunism@hexbear.net 52 points 1 year ago

sometimes you just make a big whoopsie, no biggie! we're all human. oh did you steal a Snickers? Straight to jail.

[–] coeliacmccarthy@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago

liberal institutions will actively kill you

[–] star_wraith@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The water situation in Flint to could be fixed for a fraction of the new money that Biden wants to give Israel or Ukraine.

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You're right. But in order to maintain its dying global hegemony, Amerikkka (the imperialist, settler-colonial, fascist, capitalist government) must prevent Russia from selling natural gas to the EU and must use Israel as a forward operating base to control the energy industries of the MENA countries. Otherwise dollar hegemony will end and then it won't be cheap to fix domestic problems anymore. So Amerikkkan "prosperity" is tied to American imperialism, and more and more of the discretionary and non-discretionary budget must be spent on maintaining that imperialism. The country is in a death spiral and the only way out is revolution. There's no redirecting the blood money to fixing the domestic wounds, because the value of the blood money itself is tied to the fact that it's used to bomb people instead of healing domestic wounds.

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Consequences? In America?

We have an ex president who tried to overthrow the government who is still walking free today. Nothing’s gonna happen, nothing’s gonna change.

Unless…?

[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 67 points 1 year ago (2 children)

When a president tries to overthrow the government, you'll see them plan and organize with key figures in the army, private industry, and government.

Donald Trump tried to give a speech in front of the political equivalent of a loosing team's sports riot. You want an actual coup? The supreme court awarded George Bush Jr. the presidency in 2000.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago (2 children)

To be fair to the hysterical liberals who want to turn it into resistance 9/11, there was more to it than that. It was supposed to be a constitutional coup. The speech and the riot weren't supposed to be the main element, they were supposed to be the threat against his own people to go along with the plan. "Hang Mike Pence." Pence was supposed to take a list of fake electors and present them into the dumb ritual congress does to actually certify the election. Considering how feckless liberals are with pursuing power there's a nonzero chance it would have worked.

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It absolutely would have worked. Liberals would have taken that bout of cheating squarely in the face and tried to argue against it through legitimate channels while the conservatives would have had them all thrown out for being 'anti-American commies' or whatever

Liberals would still be trying to instill order, hall monitor style, in the halls of parliament while Nazis were goose stepping through them

[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

That's where it was always gonna break down, though. Trump just didn't have the sway over his own cabinet, let alone enough key figures to pull it off. Like, a serious bid for power wouldn't have hinged on publicly threatening the guy you need to do the legal chicanery. There was no real plan, just a fairy-tale to rationalize a long chain of hasty decisions made in the moment.

[–] ksynwa@lemmygrad.ml 41 points 1 year ago

America even has performative coups lmao

[–] KarlBarqs@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

tried to overthrow the government

The fucking riot consisted of a bunch of meemaw boomers standing around gormlessly in the lobby, a couple chads sitting at politicians' desks, a couple Q dipshits who thought they could rush the Secret Service, and like a dozen Atomwaffen goons

It wasn't even close to being a legitimate threat

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When the revolution comes we will make Obama really drink it.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But my-hero made a PR spectacle of helping/saving Flint so that did something of lasting significance, right? anakin-padme-2

But my-hero made a PR spectacle of helping/saving Flint so that did something of lasting significance, right? anakin-padme-4

[–] NoEyed@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Musk installed Space-X brand pipes to guarantee crystal clear tap water and gave everyone free Neuralink subscriptions

[–] GarfieldYaoi@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

smuglord: "Muh 13/50! Take that, librulz!"

In a country that openly picks and chooses what crimes to enforce, that quip means nothing.