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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 25 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

A better interpretation of Davros' change is that previously, in the old Doctor Who, the nazi ideology that inspires Davros was itself severely wounded by its defeat in ww2. Reduced to being wheelchair-bound.

Today however, nazism has regained its footing. More dangerous than ever.

It is fitting.

[-] axont@hexbear.net 24 points 9 months ago

Yeah so the article is about how the villain Davros (creator of the Daleks) will no longer be depicted as in a wheelchair and that's due to baggage from earlier in the show. The writers don't want it to seem like Davros is resentful of his disability and created evil space squid Nazis in revenge, since that could possibly send the wrong messages about disability. I get it. Don't really know how they'll manage this. Also Davros has died like 5 times already but keeps showing back up.

One other show fan posted: 'My granddad was a disabled WWII vet, very self-sufficient despite being in a wheelchair & was also an activist for disability access; he wouldn’t have had a problem w/Davros since he’s a strong character who succeeded & overcame obstacles despite his disability!'

I think this person is joking, or I hope so. Davros succeeded in creating evil genocidal cyborg goop monsters because he's space Hitler

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 17 points 9 months ago

Davros wasn't really even successful, in Genesis of the Daleks the Daleks turn on him, and they continue to do that almost every time Davros appears.

[-] WoofWoof91@hexbear.net 12 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Daily Heil running out of news or something?

tbf recent dr who is fucking awful though lol

[-] WoofWoof91@hexbear.net 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

like they made the doctor a woman: cool and good, there is no reason the doctor has to be a man and it's well beyond time that they regenerated into someone non-dude
they got a good actress to play her! Jodie Whittaker is pretty good from what i've seen of her
then they made her an arch neoliberal totally-not-amazon stan??? who murders a labour activist????? and his not-involved partner????? for like no reason???????

[-] axont@hexbear.net 22 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

the most egregiously offensive episode has got to be the one with Rosa Parks. Hey kids, did you know the civil rights movement in America wasn't just the combined efforts of poor people organizing to overcome racism? There were also goofy white British people in a magic time machine who came to save everyone. In fact, the Doctor was right there on the bus with Parks.

how does something like that even get written? The writers could have done a show where the Doctor meets Rosa Parks, that could be fine. The Doctor hangs out with historical figures all the time, but the writers couldn't help themselves. They can't just have the Doctor be there, the Doctor has to help. But not help in an actual way like defeat real world threats like the cops or Klansmen, no there's scifi stuff. hey kids did you know the greatest threat to the civil rights movement was actually an evil time travel man from the future

Also that episode was filmed in South Africa which shouldn't matter but it makes me feel weird for some reason.

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 11 points 9 months ago

very-intelligent The Doctor makes space Amazon decrease the number of robot workers so humans can earn a living, of course without addressing the working conditions of the human workers, because even if you're an almost immortal alien with godlike intelligence, you can't think of anything other than incremental change, let alone moving beyond wage labor.

Kerblam is such a bad fucking episode from its neoliberal morals to the villain who decides the best way to protest space Amazon is to blow up random people with deliveries because reasons. It's especially insulting because the episode Oxygen was only one or two seasons before, but there's such a massive change in message and tone. I have no choice but to blame it on Chibnall, who has always been a talentless hack.

[-] Saeculum@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago

If you're almost immortal, it seems unlikely you'd feel any sense of urgency to fix problems. Slow incremental change will eventually result in what you want in a short enough time, relative to you.

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 3 points 9 months ago

The way I see it is that if you lived that long and travelled through all of time and space, you would've figured out that this capitalism thing isn't good.

[-] G_Bookner@hexbear.net 5 points 9 months ago

I mean, the amazon episode was pretty dumb, but the rest of Chibnall's episodes were pretty good imo. "Partition of India" and "It takes you away" were pretty memorable episodes among many other good ones and I also really liked "Flux" and the idea of the timeless child finally brought something new to the table. Chibnall managed to overcome Moffat's unnecessary labyrinths of plots as well as his misogyny while not abandoning big ideas in general.

I would've liked to have him continue running the show, especially after the last special by Davies, which I didn't find that convincing.

[-] WoofWoof91@hexbear.net 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

didn't she like explicitly out a black character as black to the nazis for "lol, pwned" points? (for context for outsiders, this series has space magic at random as it suits the plot)
and also murder various sentient species for no reason?

[-] G_Bookner@hexbear.net 5 points 9 months ago

Like you said, it's space magic and it was the master, who was working for the Nazis at that pont, so he probably just teleported away after getting captured. Also it wasn't just for laughs but the Doctors only out, as I remember it.

[-] WoofWoof91@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago

you know that's way more fucked than 90% of doctors have done before though right?

i'm not a who scholar or anything, but i have watched a fair few episodes of the "tinfoil and gaffa tape" era and i'm very sure they never did something quite so heinous as out a black character to the nazis (literal, actual, ww2 era)

[-] HornyOnMain@hexbear.net 11 points 9 months ago

i-think-that actually the newest three episodes with Russel T. Davies and Tennant were pretty good imo, a lot better than the slop chibnall was churning out

[-] WoofWoof91@hexbear.net 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

hmmmm

i might give it another shot then
i checked out hard with chibnall

though as much as i like ten inch, they missed a trick by not having Jo Martin be the doctor now

[-] Lerios@hexbear.net 11 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

just now? sorry bestie but the doctor's been kissing men since 2005 (or 1999 if you count the novels) and they've been of Questionable Gender™ for longer. A bunch of the old show is about owning fasicts, and a bunch of the modern show is about telling the military/unit to go fuck themselves. What a weird show to get all up in arms over "wokeness" over, this feels like when conservatives get pissed about rage against the machine suddenly being """woke""" as if they weren't talking shit about cops like 30 years ago

its been woke the whole damn time astronaut-2 astronaut-1

[-] Pluto@hexbear.net 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

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