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[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 70 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Time to break out the ol’ reliable of Marx quotes:

Economists have a singular method of procedure. There are only two kinds of institutions for them, artificial and natural. The institutions of feudalism are artificial institutions, those of the bourgeoisie are natural institutions. In this, they resemble the theologians, who likewise establish two kinds of religion. Every religion which is not theirs is an invention of men, while their own is an emanation from God.

[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Thank you. It's also helpful to point out that capitalism has only been around for a few hundred (400?) years, which is crazy when you consider how long humans have been around. It really took a long time for this expression of human nature to emerge.

[–] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 10 months ago

yeah but thousand of generations have chosen it.. long before it was conceived.. that's how awesome it is

[–] betelgeuse@hexbear.net 40 points 10 months ago

>be "scientist"
>study humans under capitalism
>distill theory of human nature
>apply it to history
>use that as proof that capitalism is just human nature

Liberal social science in a nutshell

[–] Coolkidbozzy@hexbear.net 33 points 10 months ago

brb gonna use this argument for slavery and patriarchy

[–] flan@hexbear.net 25 points 10 months ago

Yeah totally normal for people going about their business to use 5.6% more energy every year.

[–] commiespammer@hexbear.net 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Famously capitalist societies, neolithic stone men

[–] kot@hexbear.net 10 points 10 months ago

They actually think think that bronze age people were capitalist because they define capitalism as "when there's trade".

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 21 points 10 months ago

Humans are just dumb animals that will kill each other so that's why Elon is picking ME (enlightened) to inherit his billions! so-true

[–] mustGo@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] FumpyAer@hexbear.net 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Who's out here blurring out Nate Silver's name, lol he's a public figure.

[–] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago

blurred out but not so much you can't recognize it either, weird

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 17 points 10 months ago

The End of Evolution by Francis Fukuyama

[–] Vingst@hexbear.net 16 points 10 months ago

Capitalism is like Tuberculosis

[–] CrimsonSage@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Ya know , God bless Billy bronze. It is really helpful to me to know that there are people who run this traffic jam who are dumber than room temperature mashed potatoes.

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

He doesn't run shit. He got a lucky guess on a single election and has been riding on that ever since.

[–] CrimsonSage@hexbear.net 4 points 10 months ago

Yeah but people listen too him because he guessed an election right.

[–] Kieselguhr@hexbear.net 9 points 10 months ago

wait, is that the 538 dude? Why has it been blurred out?

(dogshit take obviously, it's like these people have never heard about anthropology and sociology - or, as it might be the case here, purposefully ignore them)

[–] manuallybreathing@hexbear.net 6 points 10 months ago (2 children)

generously attributing a generation to be 30 years, 1000s of generations infers capitalism has been chugging along for at least 30,000 years, haha good one

[–] axont@hexbear.net 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

People who say things like this don't believe capitalism is a specific economic mode, but rather, a vaguely defined set of character traits or even abstract ideas. They'll say ancient Rome was capitalist because there were merchants and money. They'll say atoms are capitalist because they trade electrons. It's a very unserious framework and they use it because it allows them to define capitalism as "good thing" and everything else as "bad thing."

[–] MechanizedPossum@hexbear.net 9 points 10 months ago

Capitalism is when you trade clams for flint arrowheads and the more clams you get the capitalister it is.

[–] hummingspark@hexbear.net 5 points 10 months ago

i like how they assume resource use is static throughout history and that capitalism = more time to produce because of human nature. Why didn't we overproduce the earth to death 4 million bajillion years ago?