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You cannot make a civil war movie and it not be political the British guy who thought California and Texas would ever be allies needs to get fired. IF HE HAD ANY BRAVERY HE WOULD HAVE MADE THE PRESIDENT TRUMP!

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[–] Maturin@hexbear.net 44 points 8 months ago (2 children)

There is absolutely no way any of those other states would be part of something called the Florida Alliance

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 34 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"We're in charge now" - the state that's about to be underwater.

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago

This is probably the most hilarious aspect of this map.

I would love to see this happen in real life.

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 21 points 8 months ago

For just the name alone - they'd have a mini - cough - civil war.

[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 37 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It was very considerate of the civil war to leave exact state borders intact.

[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 21 points 8 months ago

as though any separatist movement involving Utah isn't going to immediately eat a chunk out of every surround state

[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 33 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Civil War is an upcoming dystopian action film, written and directed by Alex Garland. The film stars Kirsten Dunst, Wagner Moura, Stephen McKinley Henderson, Cailee Spaeny, Jesse Plemons, and Nick Offerman. The film follows a team of journalists who travel across the United States during the rapidly escalating Second American Civil War, which has engulfed the entire nation.

In the near future, a team of journalists travel across the United States during the rapidly escalating Second American Civil War that has engulfed the entire nation, between the American government and the separatist "Western Forces" led by Texas and California. The film documents the journalists struggling to survive during a time when the government has become a dystopian dictatorship and partisan extremist militias regularly commit war crimes.

Texas and California together?! jesse-wtf

[–] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 31 points 8 months ago

partisan extremist militias regularly commit war crimes.

Oh, great. for the first time I bet it'll be horseshoe theory shown nationwide visually and graphically. There's no way there are liberal extremist militias.

[–] Greenleaf@hexbear.net 20 points 8 months ago (4 children)

My big problem with these post-apocalypse civil war scenarios is they still try and shoehorn in ideology when that’s likely to play very little part in that scenario especially. For example, these maps always split Utah and Nevada because “Mormons” and “Sin City”… but those two states are tied together in a lot of material ways (economy, interstate migration, etc) and would be much more likely to work together, since the Rockies really are almost like a small ocean.

So in theory, could CA and TX align? Yeah, maybe? But I don’t see any sort of material base for that assumption.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 11 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Nevada, Arizona, and Utah are also red desert states that rely on the Colorado river. They’d likely unite to fight California and New Mexico in order to invade Colorado to secure their treats and lawns.

[–] Poison_Ivy@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Thats when California activates all its transplants we’ve been sending to all the lesser states and take them all from within.

Nevada is essentially an extension of SoCal at this point

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Lmao I never thought of that. The idea that the Californian exodus is actually some Illegals Program is pretty fucking funny

[–] Poison_Ivy@hexbear.net 2 points 8 months ago

Why do you think we sent our most annoying Californians?

[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What role would Mexico and Canada play. Would Puerto Rico attempt independence from Florida? What would Cuba do?

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 5 points 8 months ago

Cuba preemptively nukes Miami

The PLA finally strikes from the Canadian border following a multi-year build up

Puerto Rico nukes Miami a second time

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago

Or Utah/Nevada would have an internal conflict and one of the two ideological forces would prevail over the other and coerce the other to adopt its customs while continuing to utilize the material, economic connection.

I'm fighting for Sin City.

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

For example, these maps always split Utah and Nevada because “Mormons” and “Sin City”

This entire premise is false because plenty of Mormons are hypocrites like most right wing Christians in amerikkka

[–] Teapot@hexbear.net 2 points 8 months ago

Also, there are a lot of Mormons in Nevada. They're about 6% of the population!

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

government has become a dystopian dictatorship

has become

[looks around]

agony-limitless

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 32 points 8 months ago (1 children)

the american fantasy of a civil war is based on stereotypes they've made for themselves and vibes. It has no material basis in reality.

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 14 points 8 months ago

Yes, but have you considered Florida Man must be stopped?

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 28 points 8 months ago (1 children)

lol that these people still think it's 1861 and that a modern American civil war would have these clean borders and clearly defined factions

[–] GeorgeZBush@hexbear.net 16 points 8 months ago

There arent even any breakaway regions! West Virgina exists because of the civil war, and other parts of the South even resisted the Confederacy!

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 20 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Texas would've immediately invaded every state in the "Florida alliance" and incorporated them

California and Washington state would remain loyal, but Washington state would get jumped by the so-called "western forces", and would need to be saved by California, turning Oregon into a bloody battlezone in the process

Nevada would run to California to save itself from being eaten alive by the Dark Mormon Empire, who will sacrifice the entire population of Arizona to summon a massive daemon army to conquer Texas and California

The Feds would maintain control of the Tide Water, but there would be a massive insurgency in rural areas

Tennessee, Iowa, Missouri, New Mexico, Nebraska, Georgia, and Oregon would become battlezones where the majority of the "conventional" fighting is done, practically every other state will see rural vs urban insurgencies

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 6 points 8 months ago
[–] SSJ2Marx@hexbear.net 19 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Imagining a better version of this movie based on the alt history in that WW2 game mod everyone likes.

[–] Saeculum@hexbear.net 10 points 8 months ago

Break the chains!

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

i mean, i'm gonna watch the flick because i liked his vision for Annihilation and several of his other movies. but i don't see how any florida breakaway project would not involve South Carolina, but would get... Oklahoma? or maybe it's unfair to assume any coherence to some "first days of collapse" map, since state borders are imaginary and what such a map (one that only shows state borders) would really reflect is national guard movements, military bases, and power projection over de facto state capitals being extrapolated outward to historic borders. so basically, nonsense.

like the SC/GA split bothers me, but Parris Island, SC is right there, so maybe there's a logic obscured by this mosaic.

[–] TimmytheDragon@hexbear.net 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And it's all about libs clipping each other...no revolutionary factions at all.

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oh, now I'm definitely watching this. fash-infighting

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 4 points 8 months ago

Yeah it'll be funny when literally any character dies, regardless of which side they're on

amerikkka

[–] GinAndJuche@hexbear.net 14 points 8 months ago

It’s dumb as hell. The only justification I can come up with they aligned as the only stand alone breakaways. A sort of interests align moment.

[–] abc@hexbear.net 11 points 8 months ago

does this say california and texas are allies, or does it say that they're both individual republics.........

[–] Wheaties@hexbear.net 9 points 8 months ago

i would not expect anything else from a film studio started by Scout from TF2

[–] Fishroot@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago
[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago

hoping this map isn't reflective of the content of the movie

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago

on wtyp they kept calling this "A24 presents Woke Vs. Chud" and I keep chuckling to myself about it

[–] DyingOfDeBordom@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago

i love how texas and california haven't had their borders change at all like

[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They don't take the idea seriously. Because in a real civil war, PA would be split between Wawa and Sheetz.

[–] Wakmrow@hexbear.net 5 points 8 months ago

Fuck them Sheetz boys

[–] Deadend@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago

Maybe United by oil?

But why the whole states?

I’m really hoping that the map is what the CNN says the lines are and the reality is completely different.