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[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I told them that what they called Western hegemony is different from the rules based order. They said the rules based order is Western hegemony. And I said I agreed. That is what I am saying. Real Western hegemony is a rules based order. And they said yes, that is what we are trying to get rid of. And I said no, but we don't even have that right now. We need more Western hegemony. And everyone at the same time was like "nooo" we are socialists, we are against Western hegemony. Socialists oppose Western hegemony. And I said but not social democrats. Social democrats are the socialists who support NATO.

And I saw someone accuse my post of strawmanning.

[–] star_wraith@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Libs know exactly ONE thing about history - that Chamberlain tried to appease Hitler by letting him take the Sudetenland, and it didn’t stop him - and think it’s some universal truth that applies in every situation.

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That exact analogy has been used by high ranking US officials to justify nearly every conflict since the WWII, including Korea, Vietnam, and the War on Terror.

[–] Victor_Lucas@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

It's also not true at all, i.e not a fact. Chamberlain wanted to collaborate with Hitler, not appease him.

Of course this is only surprising to Liberals who can't imagine why the leader of the British Empire would be a fascist 🤔💭◻️

[–] HighOnCopium@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

etc etc etc fucking etc.

Suck. It. Bitches.

people who type like this deserve gulag

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Why invest in democracy when you can invest in democracy manifest?

democracy-manifest

[–] betelgeuse@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

If Ukraine isn't open to Western investors then maybe Taiwan won't be either. Then South Korea. Then Poland. How will my boss's boss make a steady 15% on his capital if that happens?

This is an investment in democracy.

[–] TheGamingLuddite@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

It's such a perfect line because it reveals their total neoliberalization, the entire monstrous, bloody affair of war is justified by a potential Return on Investment.

[–] VHS@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

next comes Taiwan, South Korea

Ok. Cool, good.

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nooooo south korea must hold out against the evil wicked satanic north NOOOOO

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

thats why their president wants everyone to do 60 hour work weeks, so everyone can work extra hard for democracy!

In South Korea you have the freedom to work 60 hours, but In North Korea, all jobs are banned except for dusting the Kim Jong-un portrait. If you are found doing anything else, you will be executed for 12 generations. yeonmi-park

[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago

Democracy is when you expand NATO to encircle former soviet nations, and basically tell them outright "if you don't join us, willingly, and allow your economies to get privatized, deregulated, and hollowed out by foreign direct investment and IMF loan debt, you're gonna get balkanized" and then proceed to use one of the most traumatized and nations in Europe (Ukraine) as a staging ground for the CIA to send millions of dollars to reactionary militias so they can start a civil war by burning a bunch of separatists in a union hall to death, and then proceed to pit former soviet nations against each other in a completely avoidable and unnecessary war... and the more you do all that, the more democratic it is.

something something international rules based world order