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[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 113 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I love how they can just lie like this (the dumb social credit propaganda) and anyone who calls them out on it is just called a bot

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 56 points 7 months ago

Ok Mr Chang. Go back to eating Commissar Michelle Obama’s fruit 🤣🤣

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 38 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

functionally it feels a lot like the Two-Minutes Hate from JorJor Wells' 9084, ritual affirmation of in-group loyalty by demonizing the enemy

EDIT: also can't help but be reminded of False Witnesses

[–] Des@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago

despite being a cop and a snitch (or maybe because of it) orwell did have a good understanding of how to structure a modern fascist society into a sort of self-perpetuating stasis

most likely though his book is just so widely read by liberals it just became a textbook on how to manipulate social classes and it just so happens some of the techniques do work

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 108 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, the US would never deprive kids of food

bulborb-stare

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago

That's different!! They could afford lunch of their parents weren't lazy!!

[–] Hurvitz@hexbear.net 79 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I don't think this is actually a school. China-knowers feel free to correct me, but it seems like a public market or cafeteria with facial recognition for payment (probably through alipay or one of the other big players)

Here's a little background on facial recognition payment systems in China: https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/08/china-releases-plans-to-restrict-facial-recognition-technology.html

They seem to have sprung up and become popular quickly, spread to other sectors (like apartment entry), and now the government is setting some limits on their use to serve the public good:

The draft did not specify the law’s requirements, but said businesses should not require people to use facial recognition to receive better services.

Building management cannot use facial recognition as the only way for people to enter or exit, the draft said, noting if individuals don’t agree to facial recognition, management should provide other “reasonable and convenient” methods.

[–] facow@hexbear.net 11 points 7 months ago

Airports, hotels, stations, banks, stadiums, exhibition halls and other business establishments shall not use facial recognition to verify personal identity, unless required by law, the draft rules said.

I wish we had a law like that in burgerland. Instead we have Madison square garden using facial recognition to ban people.

[–] Alisu@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago

Also, that person does not look like a kid.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 75 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

When I was in elementary school, the only reason I was able to eat despite not having money in my account some days was because the lunch lady was nice and waived me since she knew I would eventually put the funds in.

By middle school, they just stopped having a functional ID scanning machine despite giving us new IDs each year, and we would have to manually punch in our numbers

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 41 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's great that you start out and you're like +oooh the panopticon oooooh discipline and punish but then once you know what it is you realize it's everywhere and it's completely banal and miserable and there's no romance to it, of course children are just a string of numbers to be indexed, monitored, and controlled.

[–] D61@hexbear.net 24 points 7 months ago

if it were that... it would make more sense.

Its probably just trying to make sure that every cent that can be cut from the school breakfast/lunch program, is cut from the school breakfast/lunch program.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 24 points 7 months ago

I live in Canada. When I was in school, if you didn’t have money or didn’t bring your own lunch you just didn’t eat.

[–] Zrc@hexbear.net 68 points 7 months ago

amerikkkans are running out of children they can starve so they have to make up stories about starving children to get their fix

[–] mustGo@hexbear.net 61 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

nitter / twitter

Meanwhile in amerikkka amerikkka students must go into debt to eat lunch. Children with poor parents who can't pay back debt have to go hungry. Staff who show pity on hungering children are fired by the authoritarian capitalist school administration.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/oct/06/us-cancel-student-lunch-debt-legislation

schools will publicly shame students

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/444138-school-cafeteria-worker-says-she-was-fired-for-allowing-student/

she was fired after she allowed a student to eat without paying their $8 lunch tab.

[–] Lerios@hexbear.net 55 points 7 months ago

in the oppressive west, i paid for my school meals with my fingerprint. since i was born poor, i often didn't eat

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 51 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Obviously horseshit because it relies on the reader accepting that ”social credit” actually exists in China.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 36 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It does but it’s for businesses lol. It essentially incentivizes business owners to not scam or else your social and financial life becomes hell because you’re restricted from everything

[–] Des@hexbear.net 19 points 7 months ago

better business bureau but an actual Bureau not just a private corporation of scam artists where they run cover for each other

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 49 points 7 months ago (2 children)

In China, they have a system where if you have mental health problems and can't hold down a job, you'll be forced to be homeless on the streets where roving gangs of thugs can beat you up and suffer no legal consequences, and the police will routinely attack you and try to arrest you and put you in prison for the crime of being too poor to afford housing.

[–] ImmortanStalin@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 7 months ago

This sounds really relatable!

[–] nothx@hexbear.net 2 points 7 months ago

Well there is one reason amerikkka is better. Our roving gang is the cops.

[–] VapeNoir@hexbear.net 47 points 7 months ago
[–] D61@hexbear.net 45 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Damn, school kids in China do be tall with a mustache....

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 7 months ago

Yanks always talk about the negatives of the social credit system, but fail to mention that those with high social credit can get free mustaches, or extra height.

[–] 420stalin69@hexbear.net 42 points 7 months ago

In China, before you even start working you are assigned a huge debt to repay. Everyone who studies at university there is in debt bondage.

[–] roux@hexbear.net 38 points 7 months ago

In America, kids don't eat.

[–] blakeus12@hexbear.net 34 points 7 months ago (1 children)

in America, children enter their designated serial numbers to buy slop from the school. if they don't have enough money they are publicly shamed in front of everyone.

[–] JohannaChittarra@hexbear.net 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] blakeus12@hexbear.net 13 points 7 months ago

except that my comment wasn't even a lie like everything yeonmi park says

[–] dkr567@hexbear.net 31 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yeah we should just outright let them starve and/or put them into school lunch debt like in the god-loving freedom-enjoyin Murica.

[–] OgdenTO@hexbear.net 27 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I mean, facial recognition in school is kind of dystopian

[–] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 45 points 7 months ago

fuck biometrics everybody should hate biometrics

[–] Hurvitz@hexbear.net 38 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Is this actually a school, though? the propagandist posting this didn't bother to check certainly (edit: and didn't even claim it specifically). It doesn't really look like one to me, and facial recognition would make a lot more sense as payment, not as school ID.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 26 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don’t see how it’s anymore dystopian than having to use an ID badge for everything, which I’ve done since I was 7. That identifies me and my school record followed me for like 12 years. I guess if you include the implications for selling data and whatnot it would be worse than an ID

[–] Barabas@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago

I don’t see the issue that is solved by having facial recognition, the amount extra an outsider who snuck in would eat is negligible compared to the amount that any school large enough that they don’t recognise every student make. Only reason that you’d need an ID is if you’re paying for the food, and I was under the impression that free lunch was the norm in China.

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 26 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Social Credit dean-frown

~~Social~~ Credit dean-smile

[–] Aquilae@hexbear.net 16 points 7 months ago

Oh that's why it's called socialism thinking-about-it

[–] MiraculousMM@hexbear.net 26 points 7 months ago

Ah yes the dystopian social credit system, far worse and more authoritarian than the American credit score which will drop by 50 points immediately after you pay off a loan in full

[–] QuillcrestFalconer@hexbear.net 19 points 7 months ago

In America children pay for their meals with money. If their economic credit is bad, they don't eat

[–] Skeleton_Erisma@hexbear.net 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

In middle school we were given student IDs

At breakfast and lunch before we even collected food we had to punch in our student IDs into a keypad

If we owned the school or put in an invalid ID you weren't eating

I remember there being a mix-up with the paperwork for the free or reduced lunch program and I couldn't eat breakfast or lunch at school for two months

Without the free or reduced lunch vouchers, meals costed the student 5 dollars.

[–] khizuo@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago

In China, students are fed food with as little nutrition as possible. Most school food is almost inedible in terms of taste and texture. School cafeterias frequently fail to meet food safety standards. Students with dietary restrictions are never considered. And this is if the students even have enough money to pay for it at all.

[–] Xx_Aru_xX@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago

Probably a system to calculate how much food the school has to make and to stop kids from eating two meals, we have something similar to that in our uni, but the meals cost 1 DZD

[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago

I'm gonna add this to my list of things that are very real.