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[–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 1 year ago

Seems like a convoluted form of ablism and perpetuating denial of the existence of mental health issues.

[–] TheSpectreOfGay@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

i think you can make a point about how a lot of therapy can worsen trauma responses by the therapist being really shitty. or a systemic critique of how a lot of therapy is designed to make you feel okay with your material conditions, and those with really really shitty material conditions affecting their mental health can't afford it anyway

probably wouldn't make those points by saying "the wealthy elites like therapy so it bad!!!!!" tho

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They're not wrong about therapy being a barely regulated shitshow full of quacks, junk science, and modalities that just flat out don't work. The discipline definitely needs a thorough purge of anything that can't produce evidence of efficacy. idk what to do about psych wards. I'm not sure it's possible to do anything under the current carceral state and with the general indifference and/or hatred of mentally ill and disabled people.

The "DAE therapy is when billionaires?" is

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah was about to say, a ton of people have been burnt by quack therapists. The solution is obviously not to utilise their services and see proper therapists, but much like chiropractors, quack therapists are everywhere.

[–] Antiwork@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Chiropractors are all a scam built up the insurance industry

[–] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah they're worse than a scam, they can actually seriously hurt you

[–] Antiwork@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 1 year ago

There is an argument to be made that therapy under capitalism is less about trying to help a person deal with their personal issues and more about getting them to be quiet about them so they can continue working.

But somehow, I don't think that is what this person is saying...

[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The rich drink water, what does this tell us about water!

[–] JohnBrownsBussy2@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

You see, the rich drink Raw Water(TM) so y'all poor should feel downright decadent if your tap water looks a little brown.

[–] regul@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

Using therapyspeak to explain why therapy is bad, sweaty.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

Wealthy people breathe air surprised-pika

[–] Dolores@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

"state of the art cancer treatments are also extremely popular among absurdly wealthy celebrities ... what does that tel us about state of the art cancer therapy?"

[–] Krause@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Water is also extremely popular among absurdly wealthy celebrities, politicians and corporate tycoons who have built empires on the misery & grave of workers... and that is fascinating because what does that tell us about water?

[–] nocages@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

I can never tell if the posts here are making fun of or agreeing with the screenshots they're posting, I always have to wait for comments to roll in with context. :(

[–] Snack_Bolshevik@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I've read some of this person's stuff on their substack and I don't think that their point is that therapy is bourgeois, even though this tiny bit out of context can seem that way

I think most of us would largely agree with they have to say about how psychiatry is fundamentally a capitalist/colonial institution

My only big critique is that they take their anarchist based thinking to the conclusion of being against "authoritarian" leftists but outside of that, I think they're right for the most part and should be engaged with in good faith

[–] Antiwork@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think they’re a grifter and don’t represent anarchistic views very well.

And do this type of stuff consistently. Have these pretty good critiques of capitalist institutions and then say some absurd stuff and act like the reader should just ignore that part.

[–] Snack_Bolshevik@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah the fact that they don't have a degree in an explicitly psych-related field and have consultation/workshop stuff to buy on the frontpage of their website gives me some grifter vibes or is at least kinda sus

I'm just leery of being overly critical of anticapitalistic POC in majority white spaces since it can be very easy to nitpick someone who is largely right but is missing some fundamental bits

[–] Antiwork@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

I'm just leery of being overly critical of anticapitalistic POC in majority white spaces since it can be very easy to nitpick someone who is largely right but is missing some fundamental bits

I totally agree with this. It’s this particular person that just frustrates me with these bad takes because they also can be harmful to people who trust their voice and not just an isolated bad take.