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You all know and love debunking. But have you heard of pre-bunking?

One approach is so-called “pre-bunking” - the targeted presentation of other perspectives and fact-based information. This involves being proactive instead of just reacting. In other words, not just trying to refute disinformation after the fact.

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[–] Erika3sis@hexbear.net 32 points 5 months ago

if "de-bunking" is "to remove bunkum by discrediting it" then surely "pre-bunking" is "to fill with bunkum in advance"

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 24 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Get small tidbits of information into people early so that when you drop huge propaganda on people later they believe it without question.

This works best with the ludicrously absurd. You can make up some complete and utter bullshit that's entirely unverifiable, just absurd stories, then later on these absurd stories you've done earlier actually make your absurd propaganda seem plausible because it's the place where all the absurd whacky shit you heard about earlier happens.

Places like /r/anormaldayinrussia for example helped to make a lot of the absurd stories and propaganda that has come out sound plausible. It pre-bunked people.

[–] sir_this_is_a_wendys@hexbear.net 19 points 5 months ago

DPRK is a good example of this. Same with China. I used to believe some absurd things. Looking back it's wild, but it's very common here.

[–] Gay_Tomato@hexbear.net 14 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Would warning people about what the propaganda angle might be like "pre-bunking?"

[–] TrashGoblin@hexbear.net 8 points 5 months ago

Pre-pre-bunking.

[–] QueerCommie@hexbear.net 17 points 5 months ago

You could say “prebunking” is what happened back when I listened to a ton of “anti-communist arguments debunked” stuff before I’d even heard the arguments.

[–] PointAndClique@hexbear.net 17 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Preboonk is the little boonk that comes before the big boonk

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] BobDole@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago

I pre(maturely)-boonked kitty-birthday-sad

[–] itappearsthat@hexbear.net 11 points 5 months ago

I've heard of a related thing where people will propagate easily-debunkable info claiming "Russia/China/BadCountry is saying this" along with a debunk of it. So falsely setting out that BadCountry is "lying" about some issue so if BadCountry later publishes credible things they can undermine it with "well they already lied about it here".

For example, publishing a badly-photoshopped photo of the USS Eisenhower with a crater on its deck saying it came from China, and then pointing out the bad photoshop.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago

Is Pre-bunking a euphemism for getting ready to sleep with and cuddle your dad in a nice bunkbed

[–] Hello_Kitty_enjoyer@hexbear.net 9 points 5 months ago

here at the virtual meta airbnb we only charge a skibidi fanum tax for a prebunked bed

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

It's a form of brainwashing called "innoculation theory"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inoculation_theory

Or how to create rabid defense force any time your side is challenged. Russiagate was a massive innoculation theory practice. Critical of NATO? Well you must be a Russian bot!

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 6 points 5 months ago

It's similar to how hogs call anyone who disagrees with them a "woke Karen radical liberal commie marxist paid CCP shill"

[–] trompete@hexbear.net 5 points 5 months ago

Well that's interesting. I was merely thinking they want more funding for their own (very much pro-active) disinformation, which they've already been doing the whole time. Basically a rebrand.