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Thirty minutes into the presidential debate, I’ve heard from three veteran Democratic presidential campaign officials, and all of them had the same reaction to President Biden’s performance: This is a disaster. It wasn’t just that Biden wasn’t landing a glove on Donald Trump on the economy, the overturning of Roe v. Wade, Covid, taxes, temperament or anything else that was coming up in the questioning. It was Biden’s voice (low and weak) and facial expression (frozen, mouth open, few smirks) with answers that were rambling or vague or ended in confusion. He gave remarks about health care and abortion that didn’t make a strong point, giving Trump a chance to say lines like, “I really don’t know what he said at the end of that sentence. I don’t think he knows what he said, either.” One of the Democrats said Biden looked scared. Another said it was an “emperor has no clothes” performance so far. The third said of the performance overall, “Don’t ask.” Trump lied repeatedly during the debate about the pandemic, immigration and Roe v. Wade, but Biden didn’t hold him accountable for those lies in a memorable way. At times, Trump attacked Biden, but the president didn’t fight back. Frank Luntz, a veteran focus group moderator who was holding a live focus group during the debate, wrote of their reactions so far: “The group is so bothered by Biden’s voice and appearance. But they’re getting madder and madder with Trump’s personal attacks.” “If Trump talks less,” Luntz said, “he wins. If Biden doesn’t stop talking, he loses.”

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[–] Frank@hexbear.net 85 points 4 months ago (2 children)

All the Democrat fucks who thought Biden was going to save them, who went all in on genocide because Biden was going to save them, who have been screaming at everyone and everyone that Biden is going to save them, this was their god. This was their champion. Fucking pathetic.

[–] TechnoUnionTypeBeat@hexbear.net 50 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Been thinking the same as I watch everyone around me having aneurysms about the debate

This was your god? This was Dark Brandon the Chosen One? This is the best you got?

Tonight we saw their God metaphorically bleed from his eye once again.

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[–] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 37 points 4 months ago

we saw his brain melting out of his fucking ears 4 years ago and it's been 4 years of gaslighting from maybe-later-kiddo

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 80 points 4 months ago (4 children)

First few pages of "reader picks"

Looks like the libs just realized they're cooked lol

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 77 points 4 months ago (2 children)

It's incredible that this fucking disaster is what it took for them to finally realize their emperor has been running around with his dick out babbling for years.

[–] HelltakerHomosexual@hexbear.net 49 points 4 months ago (1 children)

these people pretend they know anything about whats going on, thats why. libs know either a tiny bit or absolutely nothing about whats going on in any way.

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[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 44 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And none of them will have even a moment's reflection or consider that maybe they should start listening to the people who've been warning them about this the whole time.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 44 points 4 months ago (1 children)

And they're still going to blame us when they eat shit.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 33 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Dems' shitty candidate loses? They blame us and say we're just sabotaging them, so they don't need to listen to us.

Dems' shitty candidate wins? They say it's proof that triangulation works and that they don't need to listen to us.

Can't fucking win with these people.

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[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 39 points 4 months ago

"If Biden is a patriot..." Christ Almighty, imagine being so cooked that you think the elites think in the same stupid way that they have convinced the plebs to.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 31 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Democrats after orange man debate yamagami

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If we've lost the Times commenters, we've lost lanyard America.

[–] joaomarrom@hexbear.net 68 points 4 months ago (2 children)

this shit was so bad it made me feel like an impostor for teaching English while being completely unable to understand what the fuck either of them were saying

but then I saw that all the native speakers in the chat were equally confused, so I think I'm good for now

[–] GladimirLenin@hexbear.net 43 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Trump: "I really dont know what he said - and i dont think he does either" chefs-kiss

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[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 61 points 4 months ago (7 children)

I didn’t watch it out of self-care, anyone with more stomach want to give some of the sundowning highlights?

[–] micnd90@hexbear.net 88 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

They had a rule where each person were given 3-4 minutes to answer question while the other person had their mic off to prevent interruption. This prove to be disastrous, Biden cannot talk coherently for 3-4 minutes straight without falling apart, meander, and losing his train of thought. Biden often finished early, then the mods said "Mr. Biden you have 2 minutes left", started to freestyle disastrously and then time's out and got cut off. Trump deflected every question the moderators asked, and talk about something else entirely, lies through his teeth, but he is coherent within the 3-4 minutes time, finished on-time, mods don't have the balls to ask follow up question, and changed the topic. It's a disasterclass both ways for the planet, but horserace wise it is also a calamity for Dems.

[–] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 39 points 4 months ago

It was 2 minutes. With 1 minute rebuttals. Not trying to nerd on you but just pointing out it was even worse than that.

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 19 points 4 months ago

Trump didn't bother answering the question and just went off topic lol

[–] hotcouchguy@hexbear.net 52 points 4 months ago

You ever visit a dying grandparent who keeps miataking you for other relatives who are all 30 years older than you?

[–] buh@hexbear.net 40 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

for every question Trump instead deflected with some conservative talking point, frequently the "border crisis" even though biden is just as racist as trump was when it came to immigration. biden would rebut with a vague, breathless "actually everything is great and americans are happy, mack" even though everything is horrible and americans aren't happy. in the beginning they fought over who is more zionist. at some point in the middle the moderators asked directly about what each would do about drug addiction; trump said he bought "certain dogs" to sniff out drugs, biden said we have machine for that, jack.

[–] KoboldKomrade@hexbear.net 38 points 4 months ago

The only positive thing was every frame of Biden is a new facial expression.

[–] radiofreeval@hexbear.net 35 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Trump wants to kill millions of immigrants, Biden couldn't string together a sentence and they each said they could out golf each other

[–] Nimue@hexbear.net 31 points 4 months ago (2 children)

they each said they could out golf each other

I'm glad they had the courage to tackle such an important issue.

[–] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 22 points 4 months ago

god, can you even have a president who isn't the best golfer? not in my conntry

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[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 26 points 4 months ago (1 children)
[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 19 points 4 months ago

The idea

Number 1

[–] NoSuchAgency@reddthat.com 60 points 4 months ago (5 children)

Yep, and Democrats are already trying to make excuses for him. Now they're saying Biden has a cold, lol

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 48 points 4 months ago

Fucker probably got his lungs fried by Covid. Oh wait Covid is over can't be that.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 33 points 4 months ago

Biden actually has tons of debate competence, it just goes to another school, in Canada,

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[–] ryepunk@hexbear.net 54 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Hilary Clinton's agents have struck. They swapped out the potion of focus and clarity, with a drowsy and befuddled potion.

It's her time everyone. hillgasm

[–] Rojo27@hexbear.net 51 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Man who everyone that isn't a Dem shill know was sundowning 4-5 years ago had a debate performance of a man who is well into his sundowning erasurprised-pika

I wish I could bet paid hundreds of thousands of dollars or millions to sit around and not make the most basic observations.

[–] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 26 points 4 months ago

I wish I could bet paid hundreds of thousands of dollars or millions to sit around and not make the most basic observations.

this is what capitalism is keeping from us

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 50 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

maybe-later-honey Wow, look at these Russo-Chinese trollbots, making a big deal about Biden's stutter.

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[–] Barabas@hexbear.net 39 points 4 months ago

Too bad that nothing could have warned them of this, just a sudden mental decline over the last couple of days out of nowhere.

[–] Feinsteins_Ghost@hexbear.net 38 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Shoulda done it early to mid day. The geezer the Democrats have hung their last hope on is fucking sundowning.

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 31 points 4 months ago

Right? All the fucking Democrat deadender fascist scum who have been screaming that we have to vote for Biden thought this walking corpse was going to save them.

[–] sisatici@hexbear.net 34 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Reminder: he refused to take drug test before debate. Even the wonders of modern medicine could not make him appear as an alive human

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[–] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 27 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 36 points 4 months ago (2 children)

i really hate hilldawg but I can't think of anything funnier than her being Chosen again and losing Again to the person she literally intentionally elevated in their initial primary run and then lost to

[–] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 4 months ago

I'm so jokerfied at this point the entire thing is just hilarious

In it for the lulz. You go girl!

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[–] GladimirLenin@hexbear.net 26 points 4 months ago

At least we should get some good confused biden emojis out of it

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 25 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Has the democratic party been infiltrated by tankie russian bots? Where is this defeatism coming from? The chinese?

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