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V. I.   Lenin

In Australia


Published: Pravda No. 134, June 13, 1513. Signed: W.. Published according to the Pravda text.
Source: Lenin Collected Works, Progress Publishers, 1977, Moscow, Volume 19, pages 216-217.
Translated: The Late George Hanna
Transcription\Markup: R. Cymbala
Public Domain: Lenin Internet Archive (2004). You may freely copy, distribute, display and perform this work; as well as make derivative and commercial works. Please credit “Marxists Internet Archive” as your source. • README


A general election recently took place in Australia. The Labour Party, which had a majority in the Lower House—44 seats out of 75—was defeated. It now has only 36 seats out of 75. The majority has passed to the Liberals, but this majority is a very unstable one, because 30 of the 36 seats in the Upper House are held by Labour.

What sort of peculiar capitalist country is this, in which the workers’ representatives, predominate in the Upper house and, till recently, did so in the Lower House as well, and yet the capitalist system is in no danger?

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An English correspondent of the German labour press recently explained the situation, which is very often misrepresented by bourgeois writers.

The Australian Labour Party does not even call itself a socialist party. Actually it is a liberal-bourgeois party, while the so-called Liberals in Australia are really Conservatives.

This strange and incorrect use of terms in naming par ties is not unique. In America, for example, the slave-owners of yesterday are called Democrats, and in France, enemies of socialism, petty bourgeois, are called Radical Socialists! In order to understand the real significance of parties, one must examine not their signboards but their class character and the historical conditions of each individual country.

Australia is a young British colony.

Capitalism in Australia is still quite youthful. The country is only just taking shape as an independent state. The workers are for the most part emigrants from Britain. They left the country at the time when the liberal-labour policy held almost undivided sway there, when the masses of the British workers were Liberals. Even now the majority of the skilled factory workers in Britain are Liberals or semi-Liberals.   This is the results of the exceptionally favourable, monopolist position enjoyed by Britain in the second half of the last century. Only now are the masses of the workers in Britain turning (but turning slowly) towards socialism.

And while in Britain the so-called Labour Party is an alliance between the non-socialist trade unions and the extremely opportunist Independent Labour Party, in Australia the Labour Party is the unalloyed representative of the non-socialist workers’ trade unions.

The leaders of the Australian Labour Party are trade union officials, everywhere the most moderate and “capital serving” element, and in Australia, altogether peaceable, purely liberal.

The ties binding the separate states into a united Australia are still very weak. The Labour Party has had to concern itself with developing and strengthening these ties, and with establishing central government.

In Australia the Labour Party has done what in other countries was done by the Liberals, namely, introduced a uniform tariff for the whole country, a uniform educational law, a uniform land tax and uniform factory legislation.

Naturally, when Australia is finally developed and consolidated as an independent capitalist state, the condition of the workers will change, as also will the liberal Labour Party, which will make way for a socialist workers’ party. Australia is an illustration of the conditions under which exceptions to the rule are possible. The rule is: a socialist workers’ party in a capitalist country. The exception is: a liberal Labour Party which arises only for a short time by virtue of specific conditions that are abnormal for capitalism in general.

Those Liberals in Europe and in Russia who try to “teach” the people that class struggle is unnecessary by citing the example of Australia, only deceive themselves and others. It is ridiculous to think of transplanting Australian conditions (an undeveloped, young colony, populated by liberal British workers) to countries where the state is long established and capitalism well developed.

Not totally relevant while the blue tories still control the upper house, but you know

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[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 27 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yeah, I hate to burst the Brits bubble, but if the UK is anything like Australia (and it's close ties to the US says it will be) this British Labour Party will continue most of the Tory policies with some ineffectual tax cuts for the rich sold as helping the poor. Things will continue to be capitalist and get worse, and the Tories will blame Labours "leftist policies" (despite there being none put into any real action) and get elected next election to continue the cycle of two far-right parties pretending there is a two different wing choice.

The western major political parties are all far-right.

[-] WeedReference420@hexbear.net 26 points 4 months ago

Seeing so many RadLibs here overwhelmed with joy that we "finally got the Tories out" is driving me nuts

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Australia had our GOP+Far-Right nationalist equivalent in power for over 10 years before our Labour Party got in. Literally nothing substantial has changed aside from continuing to jump when US says jump.

Cost of living is going up just as it was under the far-right. COVID is spreading just as it was under the far-right. Wages are still too low and rent is still too high, just as it was under the far-right.

Nothing will fundamentally change. The West will all follow the lead of the US into capitalist self destruction.

[-] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 4 months ago

Can you guys do one really cool thing if everything will suck anyway?

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[-] Tomboymoder@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago

It would have been cool if it completely destroyed the tories as a party

[-] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago

I saw polls recently saying that most people voted labour to get the Tories out, but otherwise don't like labour and would've rather voted otherwise.

[-] FailedAtAdulting@hexbear.net 17 points 4 months ago

Naturally, when Australia is finally developed and consolidated as an independent capitalist state, the condition of the workers will change, as also will the liberal Labour Party, which will make way for a socialist workers’ party. Australia is an illustration of the conditions under which exceptions to the rule are possible. The rule is: a socialist workers’ party in a capitalist country. The exception is: a liberal Labour Party which arises only for a short time by virtue of specific conditions that are abnormal for capitalism in general.

Unfortunately, Labour is still liberal and isn't very different from the Liberals at all these days.

[-] Voidance@hexbear.net 10 points 4 months ago

‘when Australia is finally developed and consolidated as an independent capitalist state’

Found the problem. Australia went from being a British client state to an American one. When a socialist Labour Party was emerging under Whitlam, the US coup’d him.

[-] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 months ago

Considering this was published before the establishment of the first ACP post 1917, I think it tracks

[-] citrussy_capybara@hexbear.net 14 points 4 months ago

Published: 1513 (source error, not yours)

now imagining Lenin didn’t die but was transported 400 years into the past and kept on writing

[-] WeedReference420@hexbear.net 14 points 4 months ago
[-] citrussy_capybara@hexbear.net 14 points 4 months ago
[-] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 3 points 4 months ago

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[-] manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago

theres an episode where a soviet soldier is protected from evil by his faith in the revolution, while earlier a christian was not protected by their faith in god (it wasnt strong enough after seeing the horrors of war)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Curse_of_Fenric

https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/The_Curse_of_Fenric_(TV_story)

its a fun watch, but not amazing

[-] Aradina@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago

That one gave me nightmares as a kid

[-] Aradina@lemmy.ml 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Would Lenin wear a vegetable? I'm not sure he would

[-] WeedReference420@hexbear.net 6 points 4 months ago

All I could find from a quick search was an AI generated image of Lenin surrounded by cabbages (?) so I'm gonna agree that he probably wouldn't.

[-] Aradina@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago

About a continent most people wouldn't know about yet no less!

[-] Tomorrow_Farewell@hexbear.net 13 points 4 months ago

I will not be moving to Australia just to read Lenin.

[-] EllenKelly@hexbear.net 10 points 4 months ago

Theres comrades trapped here reading it for you dw

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 10 points 4 months ago

Naturally, when Australia is finally developed and consolidated as an independent capitalist state, the condition of the workers will change, as also will the liberal Labour Party, which will make way for a socialist workers’ party.

Sadly, we're nowhere near this stage yet.

[-] Voidance@hexbear.net 10 points 4 months ago

Labour people get extremely mad if you reference this

[-] Aradina@lemmy.ml 9 points 4 months ago

I mean it's interesting but he's clearly wrong about what would happen in Australia. Unless we're meant to think the Greens count. A lot of greens are good people, but they're still centrists at best.

[-] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 4 months ago

Your assumption is that the final stage he is talking about with a socialist party forming has happened yet. We aren't an independent nation, our master just swapped from the UK to the US. We haven't developed as an independent capitalist nation yet.

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