It's hard to explain, but to try to sum it up: We tend to think the best of people we like and give them the benefit of a doubt with whatever they do, but with someone we don't like we do the opposite, and tend to assume the absolute worst of intentions with everything they do.

For example: If someone we like likes Thing X, we think "Oh, well of course they like Thing X! Thing X is awesome and so are they!", but with someone we don't like, it's more like "Ugh, of course they'd like Thing X, fuckin' asshole.".

Like with people we like, we're more willing to overlook their flaws, while with people we don't like, even if said flaws are basically the same, we only focus on them in their case.

It's kinda like that Parenti quote about capitalists always assuming the worst with everything communists do, even if it's the most benign shit in actuality, but applied to individuals instead.

Not trying to make any sort of larger statement political or otherwise really, or to act like this is a groundbreaking discovery of the human psyche, this is just something that's been on my mind for a while and wanted to get it out somehow.

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[–] ComradeRat@hexbear.net 23 points 4 months ago (1 children)

the most horrifically comedic manifestation of this i've seen has been "sailor on a slave ship bound for the Caribbean writing in his journal about how horrible and fucked up it would be if pirates attack and sell him into slavery"

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Gods that complete lack of awareness must have physically hurt to read.

[–] Achyu@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Isn't that a lack of empathy rather than awareness?

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago

Yeah that would be more accurate.

[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

This (at least the negative side of it) is called Bitch Eating Crackers.

[–] frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 4 months ago

I think your link broke

[–] Blockocheese@hexbear.net 10 points 4 months ago

This is something I try really hard to fight against doing.

I grew up (and am unfortunately still trapped in) a really dysfunctional family and know what it feels like for people to assume the worst just because its you and I dont want to continue it. On the flip side, also know what it's like for something objectively awful to be excused because of who's doing it

Focusing on the action/belief/whatever rather than the person is something I've had to train myself to do but I like the person I am a lot more now that I'm more fair, even when its giving shitty people the benefit of the doubt or holding my loved ones accountable.

Something something Mao something something first type of liberalism

[–] FishLake@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 4 months ago

A psychology phenomena you might be interested in is the Fundamental Attribution Error. It’s when people tend to attribute personal qualities to other’s actions rather than material reasons. The classic example is “They were late to work because they are lazy” vs “They were late to work because there was a lot of traffic.”

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago

When I started getting into motorcycles it was kinda the opposite for me. People around here assumed I like motorcycles so I must have voted Chester Cheetah. It's caused me to not engage with the motorcycle community as a whole.

[–] Red_Sunshine_Over_Florida@hexbear.net 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I think we should be judicious and try to avoid such thinking in order to have better leadership principles as leftists. Doing so promotes trust and unity overall in a group, as more members feel their concerns are taken serious consideration by said leadership. Disagreements are an inevitability in any organization and such above mentioned thinking should not threaten the groups unity and therefore ability to enact meaningful positive change.

[–] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago

Well...yeah, that makes perfect sense that you hold people you don't like under higher suspicion, that's how everyone reacts to disliking someone. It's who you like or don't like and why you don't like em thst matters.

[–] Beetle_O_Rourke@hexbear.net 4 points 4 months ago

His sounds similar to the Halo Effect and its inverse, the Horns Effect.