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[-] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 57 points 3 months ago

AI is not for consumers, it's for investors.

[-] knightly@hexbear.net 33 points 3 months ago

Turns out it doesn't really appeal to investors anymore either.

The only people still buying into the hype are executives and managers.

[-] Jew@hexbear.net 31 points 3 months ago

executives and managers

Of course its the two types of jobs AI can actually replace

[-] roux@hexbear.net 27 points 3 months ago

Almost like it's a ponzy scheme lol

[-] miz@hexbear.net 19 points 3 months ago

can't help but imagine Stavros Halkias slipping up and calling something a ponzu scheme

[-] egg1918@hexbear.net 51 points 3 months ago

So when this bubble finally pops, what's the next bullshit tech that will carry the entire western economy? It was crypto for a bit, then they tried the jpgs.

[-] knightly@hexbear.net 36 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

The next bullshit "killer app" in tech probably follows from historical trends.

Crypto and NFTs were essentially a rerun of the 2001 e-commerce bubble, then Generative "AI" was a combination of 80's chatbots and the predictive text algos of the last 15 years. So the next big thing in tech is probably something from the early 90's with some modern twist all buried under a fresh coat of marketing hype.

  • Cybiko with LoRA?
  • Gene therapy for cilantro tasting like soap?
  • A serverless, blockchainless model for Web 4.0 that manages to be craven and awful in entirely new ways?
  • VR/AR becomes as cheap as smartphones?
  • A new physical A/V format for when the streaming market implodes?
  • Even more "Smart" devices that only exist to steal personal info and die when the corpo servers go down?
  • Trend-following bots that automatically generate and sell merchandise on demand in response to viral posts (probably already exists)?
  • "Smart Agents", software that promises to use AI to simplify the already dumbed-down apps everything uses these days?
[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 19 points 3 months ago

VR/AR becomes as cheap as smartphones?

Alas I think VR is too cooked thonk-cri A new a/v format would be comedic however given that 4K blu doesn't sell

[-] knightly@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago

Doesn't seem likely to me either, but they would be amusing futures.

Personally, I think we've got another year or three before GenAI finishes running its course.

[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 14 points 3 months ago

I want it to be Joever already biden-horror

[-] Owl@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago

The technology for VR is there but the business landscape just isn't. For VR to take off, there'd have to be a cheap (like game console price) VR set that works for most people, so game developers making games for them can sell to more than a handful of tech hobbyists. But all the tech companies want to sell premium VR sets because that's where they make money.

The only ways I see for VR to become a thing are either:

  • some company starts mass producing cheap VR sets until they become widely available (just a strategic blunder for the company that does it)
  • some company makes a VR console and produces their own exclusive games for it (would've worked during the console wars, but Nintendo is the only company still playing this game, and it doesn't sound like the Switch 2 is going to be this)
[-] ashinadash@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago

Well VR also has the multichannel audio/5.1 problem of: not everyone wants to make space for all that, and also yeah shit got more expensive instead of less. Acer AH101 was like $200 what happened to that?

[-] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago

My mones is on wearables by way of Lorawan or IOT. The jacket that tells you when it stops being wet or whatever.

[-] knightly@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Eh, I'm not putting any money on that. Part 1 of Stross' "Accelerando" already ran the concept of smartclothes into the ground before smartphones were even a thing, and nobody wants a vest that's also a storage and compute cluster that sends passive-aggressive emails to your smartglasses when its simulated personality gets lonely.

[-] D61@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago

Solar powered cooling vest.

[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

I'm thinking it's going to be security/military-themed. Governments are spending money on war and police and spies like drunk sailors and many beaks are going to get wet putting NATO on the Blockchain, selling spy-detection apps or building automatic AI-powered disinformatskaya-filters.

Consumers will be drawn into this paranoia capitalism as well, buying technological fixes for homeless people being nearby, people touching their cars or cyber attacks bringing down modern society.

[-] RiotDoll@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago

I genuinely think there's way too much money in crypto that there's no way they don't somehow try to force fetch to happen. I massively fear a world where crypto has so much wealth buy-in that one of the more dominant coins finds itself getting a major nation to back it, or allow it as lawful exo-currency. The united states is specifically on a cultural, political, and economic precipice and I absolutely see the coming imperial crises causing an opening with which this horseshit permanently embeds itself in the economy. The blockchain is a god-sent to the security state, having a permanent, un-falsifiable record of all transactions would make any letter agency data twat salivate

there's very real reason to think that crypto-bros are gonna find a way into a kind of unescapable legitimacy. The groundwork is being laid socially already, even if there's not a lot of buy-in, it's something a lot of people are at least nominally aware of, and all it takes is some kind of economic catastrophy, which is likely in the short-mid term, and with their ear already bent to our completely for-sale government, it'll become normal and just the way it is ("ugh I hate having to open my crypto wallet!!! web 3 sure is worse than web 2!!" they whine as they make their peace with how things are yet again, doing nothing about it)

I basically predicted elon musk would turn twitter to the right, and everyone would thrash and whine and mostly give up and carry on just because the platform is too valuable - that's a victory for him, even if he lost some people - they're all peoplegroups outside of the world he wants.

This is the way of forcing shit down people's throats, and i just don't think crypto is done yet, and i fucking hate it. I'm trying to get myself in a position to more seriously drop out if/when it happens

[-] knightly@hexbear.net 12 points 3 months ago

I keep forgetting that there are still people who use crypto and twitter. XD

[-] pumpchilienthusiast@hexbear.net 27 points 3 months ago

Carbon capture via the blockchain. Don’t ask how it works, it is very complicated and you wouldn’t understand. Just trust me.

[-] D61@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago

Step away from the lathe!

lathe-of-heaven

[-] Owl@hexbear.net 27 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

It has to be purely digital (finance capitalism hates manufacturing), and enable a new set of makets (neoliberalism demands it) that allows infinite growth (silicon valley ideology) and requires a lot of GPUs (the tech giants funding this only want technology they have a competitive advantage on, and their competitive advantage is having enough money to fill data centers full of GPUs).

Best I can think of is cloud gaming, but I don't really think it quite works.

[-] Mesophar@lemm.ee 13 points 3 months ago

Cloud gaming has already come and gone, but wouldn't be surprised to see it take off again

[-] Owl@hexbear.net 12 points 3 months ago

Yeah, and it also doesn't quite fit because making games is a huge amount of work. The companies in question would rather provide a cloud gaming platform that they control and third parties make games on. But then that immediately falls over because they're all providing the same non-service and can't win the market from one another.

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago

I just want tech to know its place. I don't want the entirety of the US economy to just be a one-trick pony with tech.

I roll my eyes at the current state of things where everyone and their mother wants to be a tech company. Domino's practically rebranded as a tech company that sells pizzas.

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[-] marie1917@hexbear.net 21 points 3 months ago

It's hard to say because so many companies have gone hard on LLMs. I hope to god that when this bubble pops, it takes companies like Oracle and Microsoft with it.

Sadly, as we all know, tech giants are too big to fail and would get bailed out immediately.

[-] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 19 points 3 months ago

Quantum computing's time has come, it's totally going to make AI work the way we always said it would.

Sony PS9 needs to be in the works too.

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[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 44 points 3 months ago

Desperate board meeting. One of the execs shrugs and says "well, we could try advertising how quickly it learned the n word."

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 38 points 3 months ago
[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 24 points 3 months ago

:stav_laughing:

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 42 points 3 months ago

def not a bubble tho πŸ‘

[-] knightly@hexbear.net 33 points 3 months ago

I'm so ready for that bubble to pop. XD

[-] Storm@hexbear.net 25 points 3 months ago

This is good for bitcoin

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 27 points 3 months ago

When I saw that video about the anti-sex beds at the olympics using ai I wanted to scream.

[-] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 25 points 3 months ago

the anti-sex beds

Why do they treat the olympics like it's a fucking middle school field trip

[-] fox@hexbear.net 16 points 3 months ago

It's a event full of the most athletic people on earth, all of whom are absolutely wired on stress for their competitions, in close quarters. They'd fuck with or without beds.

[-] Black_Mald_Futures@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago

I googled it and i think the anti sex bed thing is fake, they just made beds out of cardboard so they could be recycled

[-] Magjee@hexbear.net 24 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

They tried it in Tokyo, anti-sex beds were made of cardboard, so if you tried to bang the bed would give out under you

...as if young horny fit people couldn't just throw the mattress on the floor and go to town

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It's so dumb

[-] invo_rt@hexbear.net 19 points 3 months ago

I was watching some interview about those beds specifically and there was a regular damn couch in the background behind the interviewer. It's really stupid.

[-] clark@midwest.social 7 points 3 months ago

You have a link to the video?

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[-] AndJusticeForAll@hexbear.net 27 points 3 months ago

Organic intelligence is going to be sold as a premium product instead.

[-] RION@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago

Working at a grocery store and getting chewed out for putting the brains below the NPUs on the shelf (they have to be sold as conventional now due to contamination)

[-] culpritus@hexbear.net 24 points 3 months ago

Ehh I ... don't care for it.

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 23 points 3 months ago

smuglord so you're telling me things would be produced in a capitalist economy for which there is not a consumer demand? go back to econ 101 tankie futurism dot com

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[-] Wertheimer@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago

Allen Iverson in shambles

[-] AernaLingus@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago

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[-] Grandpa_garbagio@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago

i just spam the phrase "talk to human" in the chat over and over and if it doesn't direct me to a real person i stop using it

[-] AmericaDeserved711@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago

only gimmicks need to advertise the use of "AI" as a selling point. the actual useful applications of machine learning don't need marketing buzzwords because the end product is compelling enough at face value

like how many gamers even realize that their fancy raytracing only works because of "AI" de-noising? they don't have to know or care about what's going on under the hood, all that matters is that the game looks prettier

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