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Even RFK Jr. has support for this.

Curious if people are still going to support him after this.

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[-] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 50 points 2 months ago

There's some parts of the covid response that should be critically examined. I doubt anyone here is gonna say the west's response was perfect. The initial lie of insisting masks DON'T prevent spread - because they wanted to prevent a run on masks - was actively harmful to later attempts to get people to mask by mandate. The US blob saying vaccines don't work in Philipines because they didn't want the PRCs vaccine to be successful in Philipines should be talked about.

Like, there should be some kind of formal hearings on this if any of the west was serious about pandemic preparedness and management. It would probably end up as a joke and we wouldn't learn fuck all at tye end of them, but it sure would be nice to actually find out the truth and figure out which countries response was the most effective at keeping people alive - including "enemies" like China or Vietnam or whatever, if what they did prevented death we should learn from that.

[-] nocturnedragonite@lemmygrad.ml 42 points 2 months ago

The problem was and has always been capitalism and not the fucking vaccines, why else did China recover from covid faster? God I fucking hate this place so much

[-] stink@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 months ago

B-b-b-but I heard China executed people with covid and that didn't even help'm1'!!1!

[-] Self_Sealing_Stem_Bolt@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago

Sweden did tho(euthanized the covid positive elderly) Britain kinda did too (told ND children that they wouldn't be treated if they caught covid)

[-] plinky@hexbear.net 41 points 2 months ago

in the marvelization of politics, fringe political figures must take 1 (one) batshit position, to poison the well of anything good they might say.

[-] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 2 months ago

*all political figures

FTFY :)

[-] TheModerateTankie@hexbear.net 35 points 2 months ago
[-] P1d40n3@hexbear.net 25 points 2 months ago

Respect for Cornel West...falling...fallling......unalived....

[-] Weedian@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago

COINTEL West

[-] HumongousChungus@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yeah I'd believe any of this was about pharma impact if ANYBODY on their side was mentioning that Moderna and Pfizer get their vaccines approved before other manufacturers and to greater demographics, or the fucking moneybags we gave them by privatizing the vaccines in exchange for truncating their market by falling into institutional pandemic denial

[-] dirtybeerglass@hexbear.net 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

you easily dismiss the experience of black people and health care because you a fucking ignorant shithead

[-] stink@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 2 months ago

I... kinda agree with him here? The pandemic was one of the biggest transfers of wealth to the 1%. Small businesses shut down, PPP loans were sucked dry by the companies that didn't need them.

My dad works in a hospital and said blacks / hispanics were at such a higher risk of dying compared to white people.

Getting to the root of those issues, as well as rebuilding trust in marginalized communities, (yes, even poor white people, who were the biggest opponents of covid safety, are part of a marginalized community). Don't even get me started on the Tuskegee trials....

I think building trust in communities on vaccine safety should be worked on. The conspiracies are already on people's heads, there needs to be re-education.

Do I believe this is entirely what he means? No probably not, but there is some truth to his statements on how covid impacted marginalized communities the most, and that trust needs to be rebuilt. I don't know how I feel about his censorship take though, at some point there should be legal implications to push lies as truth. Fox news and all those other chud networks have millions of lives worth of blood staining their hands.

[-] Dolores@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago

Establish a Vaccine Safety and Utilization Panel

yeah I don't think he cares about about there being legal implications to pushing antivaxx lies.

[-] grandepequeno@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

You can be pro-vax, pro-mandate, pro-lockdown, pro-generally-speaking-most-government-responses-to-the-pandemic, without being unfair to anyone slightly critical of any of those things.

Curious if people are still going to support him after this.

It's not that big a deal, especially after 4 years

[-] D61@hexbear.net 1 points 2 months ago

Curious if people are still going to support him after this.

Wait... West still running? unfamiliar-with-your-game

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