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If you are queer you cant say genocide bad nerds

The bare minimun like endorsing genocide

Not endorcing genocide is worse than normalism racists

You cant embrace your sexuality unless you vote for genocide

Must be a blahaj poster

"we need more pro genocide celebrities"

There is no bigger privilege than treating genocide as a non issue

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[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 81 points 9 months ago (5 children)

I'm tired of artists profitting off queer and drag culture

She IS queer and drag culture. What's she supposed to do, not be a lesbian?

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 49 points 9 months ago

The people saying shit like that are molecules apart from being Log Cabin Republicans at any given moment.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 37 points 9 months ago

"Denying a person's gender and sexuality isn't a problem if it's someone we don't like. In that case, you're free to do things like misgender them or say their homosexuality is a lifestyle choice."

[–] Hexboare@hexbear.net 36 points 9 months ago

Oh so she's profiting off lesbians both financially AND romantically

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 23 points 9 months ago

I'm tired of X profiting off Y too but every time I suggest ending capitalism suddenly they love profit again

[–] edge@hexbear.net 73 points 9 months ago (2 children)

we should expect better of the people whose careers we finance

But not of the people we give power, apparently.

[–] anonochronomus@hexbear.net 36 points 9 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, we also finance their careers.

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 13 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No, their careers are financed by capitalists.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 21 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Their capital comes from labor

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 35 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Kamala is ONLY Vice President, how can you expect her to meaningfully alter the course of an ongoing genocide??

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 25 points 9 months ago (1 children)

My mom was saying this the other day at dinner unironically. "People are criticizing Kamala. What is she supposed to do? She's still only vice president and has to wait until she's elected to do anything!"

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[–] TheDoctor@hexbear.net 62 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Remember when she was going to read Palestinian poetry at the White House as a form of protest and she was advised that it would put her life in danger to do so? I wonder why she would be hesitant to get involved.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 43 points 9 months ago

It will put her life in danger.

Hey CHUDs, tell me again how you’re the rebels because you punch down on innocent people that can’t fight back?

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 28 points 9 months ago

I was told this country is perfectly fine with free speech

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[–] Angel@hexbear.net 51 points 9 months ago (1 children)

The only issue I have with what she said is her using the term "both sides," as if they're a part of a different side.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 50 points 9 months ago

True, but that's a reasonable mistake given the framing of the question and the fact it's a verbal answer off the cuff. She's pretty unequivocally voiced support for Palestine and ending the genocide so it's not like she's a centrist.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 50 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I’m bisexual, and if me not supporting the comic relief anime villain party out of fear of the main antagonist anime villain party conflicts with that, then call me straight.

Extremely privileged position

You are a settler in the global north, you’re the last type of person to lecture anyone on privilege. How fucking dare you try to paint simply wanting peace to be bourgeoisie decadence?

[–] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 48 points 9 months ago

She should support the party who has controlled the white house during a severe unravelling of trans rights

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 48 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Poster 2 is a great example.of how liberals are literally incapable of complex thought.

It's not possible le to criticize dems from the left so if you're criticizing the dems you're to the right of them.

"The bare minimum for the lgbtq community" is more than what the dems give. And it's more than they'll ever give if everybody just votes for them regardless.

[–] Taster_Of_Treats@hexbear.net 36 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Dems didn't even do gay marriage. That was the supreme court.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 25 points 9 months ago

Dems stopped openly and actively opposing gay marriage after the supreme court legalized it, making them Allies maybe-later-honey

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 16 points 9 months ago

Hey they got rid of the guy who was opposed to gay marriage as their presidential candidate like... three weeks ago.

[–] frauddogg@hexbear.net 48 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Settler queers and their minstrels stay proving they the weakest links... Genocide being a negotiable is the single biggest sign you might be a colonizing vulture; but more fools me for expecting an iota of self-awareness out of them.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 31 points 9 months ago

I've been saying for years: democrats' problem with the Holocaust is the SS didn't receive diversity training for guarding Auschwitz.

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 41 points 9 months ago

privilege is when you care enough about the lives of people to not endorse their wholesale extermination.

like omg, think of how uncomfortable it will be to live in America and not be able to pretend it isn't a fascist, carceral murder machine.

how could you do this to us, just threaten to not support keeping the veil in place?

[–] Tom742@hexbear.net 41 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I just want to know where libs got the impression that the democrats have any interest and intentions in championing gay and trans rights. It’s certainly not one of their campaign promises, it’s not part of their party plan, and I don’t believe I’ve heard KKKamala mention anything during her speeches.

To point, they invited anti-trans republicans to give speeches.

[–] roux@hexbear.net 30 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I feel like if the Dems really cared, there'd be at least some kind of legislation by now protecting the rights of queer and trans people.

To my knowledge, there isn't any but I'd be happy to be proven wrong.

[–] jack@hexbear.net 16 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There is at the state level in some places. It's one of Walz's touted achievements.

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[–] fox@hexbear.net 39 points 9 months ago

Why are we expecting a musician to endorse anyone? She should have exactly as much electoral weight as anyone else, i.e. none. Like, a community or union leader giving an endorsement means something but a musician? What, is Kamala going to fund bigger concert venues? Direct R&D to discover new chords?

Also, Harris is a cop, I don't see any cop deserving endorsement from any member of the LGBTQ+ community for any reason. If the choices are a fascist (capitalist) and a fascist (cop), there's no worthy opponent to endorse and only the system itself to condemn.

Also also, Roan in that same interview said it was important to engage on local candidates more than national ones. It's not like she's rah rah on Republicans because she's unenthused about the génocidaires in power, she's telling people their votes are more impactful locally because again, both national candidates thirst for unlimited Palestinian blood, and no good comes from voting for either of them.

[–] GnastyGnuts@hexbear.net 37 points 9 months ago

The message democrats have sent with their abandonment of the Palestinians and their rightward shift on immigration, is that they will discard you as soon as they think you're a liability to them as a party. They absolutely will not drop their fucking nuts and fight for you.

Trying to say that they'll protect LGBT rights -- aside from the lack of evidence policy-wise over the years, even in democratic trifecta states -- doesn't hold up with how they've thrown other groups under the bus and excused it with "it's actually to protect everyone else."

That's what they'll say when they're fucking you over too.

[–] heggs_bayer@hexbear.net 37 points 9 months ago

For the last image:

There is no bigger privilege than treating genocide as a non issue

That poster is definitely the kind of person to say "The Democrats might support the genocide in Gaza, but the Republicans will do that genocide and a genocide of queer people at home." As if the demonrats have been doing jack shit to combat the anti-GSM measures of the frothing fash rethuglicans.

[–] QuillcrestFalconer@hexbear.net 37 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You claim to be gay, and yet you don't support the brownshirts. Don't you know they have a gay leader?

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 36 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

kamala literally sent trans women to mens prisons, shes a transphobic piece of shit that brazenly inflicted lifelong harm on trans people for even minor offenses like speeding barbara-pit

[–] ChuzaUzarNaim@lemmygrad.ml 35 points 9 months ago

It really is inconceivable to them that other people have actual principles that they won't drop the moment they're even slightly inconvenient.

[–] autismdragon@hexbear.net 34 points 9 months ago

Had it out with some dork in the music channel of a discord about this. Luckily I had some people on my side but god it was annoying seeing this moron say that "Chappell flirting with MAGAism again" over this.

[–] ihaveibs@hexbear.net 33 points 9 months ago

I wish all of these people would say this in front of leftist groups and organizations and see how overwhelmingly queer these spaces are, and then I hope those leftists would beat the shit out of them

[–] fart@hexbear.net 31 points 9 months ago

She even says she's voting for harris in the actual interview, she just stops shy of an actual endorsement. "Requiring" gen z pop stars to endorse a candidate is wild.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 29 points 9 months ago

Queerness means performative tears for Broadway musicals and checking out all the amazing corporate ads during Pride. capitalist-woke

[–] roux@hexbear.net 26 points 9 months ago

I guess the "Stonewall riots to endorsing the cop" pipeline is real...

[–] NoLeftLeftWhereILive@hexbear.net 26 points 9 months ago

"Reasonable Adults" fire

[–] WhatDoYouMeanPodcast@hexbear.net 24 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Dems aren't even a ratchet anymore; it's like an action that one person can do that will have the vocel police called except all that comes out is fascism. They don't even help the LGBT.

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[–] Cloudx189@hexbear.net 23 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They're in office right now. If they even did any ounce policy, at this very second, that would hinder what Israel is doing or take a step towards solidifying abortion access across the country or passing anything that would help regulate the mass shootings occurring everywhere, all the time, I would be the first in line fucking yelling to vote. Just demonstrate to us there's actual change that can be catalyzed from voting for this fkn cop, and I'll eat my words about electoralism.

[–] vegeta1@hexbear.net 17 points 9 months ago

This is a privileged position to take but calling a genocide "single issue" is not a privileged position. Fucking Americans

[–] Homer_Simpson@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago (2 children)
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[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

Dunno who this Chappell person is but judging by all these genociders hating, I think I like him or her or they

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 10 points 9 months ago (1 children)

She was previously invited to the whitehouse dinner but refused to go when they wouldn't let her recite a poem about Palestine during the event lmao. They straight up just want her to do her little hot to go dance and pretend she doesn't care about genocide.

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[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 8 points 9 months ago

"profiting off queer culture" motherfucker she's a lesbian !!!

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