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Why do libs live in a perpetual fantasy where theyre targeted for voting for Hillary in 2016?

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[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 58 points 1 month ago (3 children)

It's funny, they're not even "with them" to the extent that they even exist. I remember when Texas was frozen the libs were ecstatic that poor rural people were gonna freeze to death.

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 29 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yup, I remember another instance of libs gloating about how the people in some red state deserved to suffer for voting for Trump

Had any of the over 100 libs who had commented on that story actually read what had happened they would know that the people they were so sure were getting what they deserved were actually poor and black

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[–] Des@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago

probably the East Palestine chemical spill disaster

[–] Vernon_Tennessee@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago

Thats sad and gross. National politics is all for show anyways.

[–] anarcho_blinkenist@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

a bunch of these types in an .ml post about Texas running out of water was doing the same thing just a couple weeks ago I was pretty disgusted. I commented like you guys know that in Texas all the minorities you pretend to care about, together added up are more than the Texas honky population in general, let alone the specifically MAGA suburbanites and bourgeois ones? Blue MAGA indeed

[–] Vernon_Tennessee@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wtf happened to the online left anyways? A lot of spaces that were super left are now just completely radlib.

[–] wild_dog@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

are you sure they were super left or is it more that your thinking has evolved?

i ask bc i always felt like a lot of the online left was radlib.

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[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] anarcho_blinkenist@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

it's 3, looking at it now that's actually every reply but my own, not including the upvotes in agreement.

"it's only a few guys being murderous sociopaths toward civilians in their country's suffering due to blue maga essentialization" is not really the defense you think it is, nor one worth making.

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[–] wild_dog@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago

It's not. it might be only a few annoying accounts going out of their way to do it, but try living in a red state and criticizing a liberal online and you'll quite often get told how you're a "dumb redneck" crypto-Trump supporter. it doesn't even take much to get them to start spouting that bullshit. the only thing the conservatives are correct about is liberals are very annoying and condescending.

[–] hypercracker@hexbear.net 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

lol every metro area in the south is stuffed full of dem yard signs, nobody gives a fuck

[–] CupcakeOfSpice@hexbear.net 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maybe in metro areas, but the small town I live in has a game shop that has/had LGBT+ safe space and mask required signs, and apparently people have come in brandishing guns demanding they take them down. Evidently no one ever got hurt, but the vitriol is definitely there. They probably supported Hillary as I bet they're a bunch of libs, but I guess they didn't advertise that.

[–] Vernon_Tennessee@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago

And libs are the types to "condemn politicial violence no matter what" even if its in retaliation or in self defense to one of these chuds doing something violent.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 35 points 1 month ago (2 children)

“We support progressives in red states.”

Then how about you allow your in-demand cities to build more housing so us “dumb hicks” from red states can move into your fancy pants progressive cities? I’d love to live in NYC and be relatively confident I don’t run into a chud.

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 28 points 1 month ago

Sorry, they're too busy gentrifying everywhere between NYC and Albany so the whole state becomes as unaffordable as the city and increasing the police budget

[–] regul@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Is this a yimby take on Hexbear? Are the tides finally shifting?

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The "yimby" take is not mutually exclusive with he socialist take on housing

[–] regul@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I agree but I still get yelled at for it a lot in leftist spaces.

[–] Vernon_Tennessee@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago (2 children)

In what spaces do you get yelled at for this take? Like I understand that NYC and LA both have a big influx of wealthy transplants who move here to "make it" or whatever and just suck up all the resources, pour all their money into chic businesses but thats not the same as building housing for poor people that need it.

[–] regul@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

On here and in the FB group NUMTOT. Lots of folks have the take that any and all for-profit housing is to be opposed.

The general arguments that are made are:

  1. For profit housing takes a lot that could be used for public housing

  2. New housing typically targets the top of the market and entices high-earners who speed up displacement

  3. The idea that new condos are bought primarily to sit as empty investments in expensive areas

I don't agree with all or parts of most of these.

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[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Probably because of the misunderstanding that we dont need more housing and not to just expropriate what already exists and also just turn office towers into high density housing.

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

It's thrown around a lot, but it comes off more uninformed than the outright liberal YIMBYs imo.

The things also is that liberal YIMBYs are generally all in favor of a steep vacancy tax which would directly impact this issue. This isn't a particular point of division between the two groups I don't think.

The main split has more to do with the role social housing would play in the future (near and distant).

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[–] june@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

Well they didn't say anything about deregulation so idk. It is a short-sighted take in regards to the housing/housless crisis already effecting locals in those urban centers.

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 27 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I drove around with a bernie sticker back in 2020 and nobody gave a shit

[–] regul@hexbear.net 35 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Bernie was the most liked politician in the country at the time, fwiw. He had net favorability even among Republicans.

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 38 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Dems: we need to appeal to centrist republican voters

Bernie: yo I can do that

Dems: lol go away

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

Maybe it was a fever dream, but can someone confirm if there were some liberals that were discussing the progressive case for Trump when it looked like Bernie would win in 2020?

Point is, libs would rather lose to Trump than win with Bernie.

[–] Vernon_Tennessee@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

Damn those three weeks or so in 2020 were an insane high. Then.super tuesday AND COVID hit like a motherfucker.

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Very possible.

I don't remember anymore but I still know Trump supporters who think Trump is progressive on economic issues.

[–] jaywalker@hexbear.net 4 points 1 month ago

Most economically progressive president of our lives! He literally sent us checks with his name on it. Licked the stamps himself because he loves America

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 6 points 1 month ago

I kinda remember that too. Or maybe it was just people like us prophesying based on how the UK reacted to Corbyn. A lot of that time is mired in a haze to me.

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago

If that happened it's probably in the NYT op-ed backlog.

[–] Homer_Simpson@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

I risked my life with this Bernie bumper sticker man!!!!

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Libs and chuds both do this. They act like the political system is against them. Then they'll happily :smuglord: leftists about how leftists should be grateful to be living under such freedom offered by liberal "democracy"

[–] Sulvor@hexbear.net 10 points 1 month ago

"You're lucky we don't kill you, get back to making your boss money"

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 21 points 1 month ago (1 children)

tbf though I probably wouldn't fly a Hillary flag in the south.

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 31 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The only appropriate place to fly a Hillary flag is the 7th circle of hell.

[–] regul@hexbear.net 13 points 1 month ago

What about Cedar Rapids?

[–] Homer_Simpson@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago

I walked through blood and bone to plant my Kamala yard sign. Turns out I was in Lebanon at the time...

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 20 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The same reason they think project 2025 is going to result in Emperor Trump and that armed men will round up all minorities at gunpoint. Pure fantasy from a country that’s never had to deal with the dictators their country regularly puts into power.

[–] Vernon_Tennessee@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Meanwhile Eric Adams in NYC is running the city like a fascist police state and no one cares.

[–] MayoPete@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

I care. Fuck that guy

[–] robinnist@hexbear.net 18 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Every Hitler party follower, regardless of preference for red or blue Hitler, should be free to display their genocide merch PROUDLY. Resist!

[–] gay_king_prince_charles@hexbear.net 16 points 1 month ago (1 children)

These are the same people who think Texas is going to vote blue.

[–] Vernon_Tennessee@hexbear.net 12 points 1 month ago

They blew that opportunity when they snubbed Bernie.

[–] anarcho_blinkenist@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago

"First they came for our brunches..."

[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 1 month ago

These are the people who try to shame others for not being pro-genocide because they are "privileged". These people face consequences like a sign being defaced or someone hurling insults at them, and to them, that is worse than people who are literally dying.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 11 points 1 month ago

The desire to be persecuted is a cultural remnant of kkkristianity

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

Now imagine if everybody who looked at you had the same feelings as they do towards your sign you can choose to take down.

[–] Tiocfaidhcaisarla@hexbear.net 8 points 1 month ago

Tearing up as I hide away my Strasser pin. my day will come

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