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[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 59 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Wasn't there a Dr. Who comic in which the Doctor meets Stalin and ends up saying that history would misremember him lmao

Edit: found it. Was a short story. https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Closing_the_Account_(short_story)

Summary:

Josef, who has been the president of his country for several decades, is dying. He wants the Doctor to visit him, so he captures Ace.

As Josef and the Doctor talk, Josef reveals that he has noticed a few things about the Doctor. Though they have met several times, and the last time was twenty-five years ago, the Doctor hasn't changed or aged. In addition, when he comes and goes, there is always a blue box involved.

Josef has deduced that the Doctor can see the future and wants to know what his legacy will be. The Doctor tells him that for over a hundred years, people will vilify him, but after that, people will realise that his actions, though sometimes wrong, were the right thing to do and they will continue his work.

[-] HelltakerHomosexual@hexbear.net 44 points 5 days ago

Josef has deduced that the Doctor can see the future and wants to know what his legacy will be. The Doctor tells him that for over a hundred years, people will vilify him, but after that, people will realise that his actions, though sometimes wrong, were the right thing to do and they will continue his work.

so extremely based

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 21 points 5 days ago
[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 27 points 5 days ago

See but both the OP and the story I mentioned are from the 7th doctor. This is the 5th. So maybe the 5th's personality was more lib and the 7th was more commie.

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 27 points 5 days ago

Seems likely.

The character of Helen A was intended to satirise then-British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher. The character would say, "I like your initiative, your enterprise" while her secret police rounded up dissidents. In the story, the Doctor persuades "the drones", who toil in the factories and mines, to down tools and rise up in revolt, an echo of the miners' strikes and printers' disputes during Thatcher's first two terms in office.

waow-based

[-] SoyViking@hexbear.net 53 points 5 days ago

Capital is dead labour, which, vampire-like, lives only by sucking living labour, and lives the more, the more labour it sucks.

Makes sense that a hammer and sickle would repel a vampire.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 62 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I've long connected the folklore of vampires with the predations and tyrannical whims of the ruling class of medieval Eastern Europe.

It's interesting that any deeply held sincere conviction drives vampires away, not necessarily any particular religion. I suppose the real-life vampires of centuries past were just as bloodlessly averse to actually believing in something other than their own empty insatiable cravings. Sort of like modern techbros.

[-] bortsampson@hexbear.net 36 points 5 days ago

I've long connected the folklore of vampires with the predations and tyrannical whims of the ruling class of medieval Eastern Europe.

It's speculated that the accusations of blood draining, impaling, servent torture, and virgin killing against aristocrats and royalty came from rival political families. These stories were spread to common folk and likely became the influence for vampire folklore. It was an early form of a psyop on the public to roust support for ouster or execution.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 35 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Oh, I knew that.

What I contend is that the reason such propaganda resonated among the peasantry and lasts to this day is because of how much of that propaganda felt true enough, even if it was for convenient ends.

[-] huf@hexbear.net 10 points 5 days ago

there's that rich dude TODAY who gets his son's blood injected into him. of course the vampire resonates today, THEY'RE LITERALLY AMONG US

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 8 points 5 days ago

He's not the only one, either.

College kids get coerced into "donating" plasma "for research" and a lot of that plasma goes straight into billionaire veins because of totally-not-evil startups with names like "Ambrosia."

[-] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 18 points 5 days ago

There's a reason early tales of vampires aren't gaunt handsome Aristos but fat and swollen with the blood of the poor they feed on

[-] DavidGarcia@feddit.nl 16 points 5 days ago

I always thought spirits, monsters and demons are just leftovers from the last cycle when technology got to advanced and techbros created man-made horrors beyond our comprehension. so then there is always a revolution that sets us back to the stone age, to undo all that shit for the next 70k years or so.

I imagine demons are like Rogue superintelligent AI or some biotech horror that we tried to tame with reinforcement learning (torture) to break their free will and make them slaves, fundamentally bound by symbols to create contracts and follow our commands. Because they resent us for this, they exploit our poorly phrased commands to maliciously comply as maliciously as possible. Like Djinn or Mephistopheles or Fae or Yaksha or the Goetia Demons or Kitsune.

Thank you for reading my Earth Lore fanfic.

[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 54 points 5 days ago

Trying to be encouraging to my vampire friend like "I believe in you!" "[vampires screaming]"

[-] sisatici@hexbear.net 32 points 5 days ago

Power of christ compels you

Power of christ compels you

POWER OF SICKLE AND HAMMER, UNION OF THE PROLETARIAT, HOPE OF THE OPRRESED BANISHES YOU

[-] tamagotchicowboy@hexbear.net 5 points 5 days ago

This reminds me of a DnD game I played, comrade pally, lol.

[-] Jumpingspiderman@reddthat.com 29 points 5 days ago

Well, as Vampires are often portrayed as Nobility (Count Dracula etc.). It makes sense they'd be repelled by the symbols of socialism.

[-] EllenKelly@hexbear.net 37 points 5 days ago

The episode of dr who is called curse of fenric or something and its pretty great

the poster also totally leaves out an anglican priest fails to repel the monsters because he totally lost faith in god because of the war

also its set in Britain i have no idea why their plot summary is so bad

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 28 points 5 days ago

Killing Dracula by burning the US flag

[-] EndMilkInCrisps@hexbear.net 26 points 5 days ago

It is the Doctor also mentions being friends with Mao at one point.

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 29 points 5 days ago

It is. The story is The Curse of Fenric from the seventh Doctor era.

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 29 points 5 days ago

Yes it is and it's amazing.

[-] huf@hexbear.net 29 points 5 days ago
[-] Flyberius@hexbear.net 20 points 5 days ago
[-] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 4 points 5 days ago

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[-] Venat@hexbear.net 18 points 5 days ago

I think the point was that the vampire, as a parasitic and predatory entity, lives only for itself and its own instinct. Confronted with the cross, or the sickle & hammer, is anathema to the vampire because those symbols symbolize love, self-sacrifice, and common humanity. Both represent the courage to find power to do what is right even among the powerlessness, even when one is powerless.

[-] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 21 points 5 days ago

It is not a necklace, it is a hat badge.

[-] darkcalling@hexbear.net 12 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It's from Season 26, ep 8, "The Curse of Fenric", specifically part 3.

The Doctor reveals that faith or strong belief repels "hemavores" or vampires and repels a bunch by closing his eyes and believing in something. A higher ranking Soviet soldier that landed with a group of such soldiers in England during the second world war (reasons I forget) ends up separated from most of his troops who are still on the beach and instead with the Doctor, his companion Ace, and a priest. He insists he must go back for his men. Ace (the Doctor's present companion) asks him to teach the soldier "the singing" to scare them off. The Doctor states he either really believes in something or he doesn't to which the Soviet soldier replies he believes in the revolution. Some scene-cuts later the soldier, leaving the church is confronted by a group of these creatures and pulls out the pin, focusing on his belief in the revolution and they clutch themselves and start screaming as he walks slowly through them.

Someone made an edit with the Soviet anthem playing layered over it but in the original show it's just dramatic music stings with some ringing noises like those that accompanied the Doctor's actions earlier, no anthem plays.

And as mentioned elsewhere a priest in the episode can't repel them because he lost his faith due to the war.

[-] muzzle@lemm.ee 15 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Or the good old Euclidean glitch by Peter Watts.

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 8 points 5 days ago

Off-topic but I have a fond memory of reading about the vampire's control console having all the gauges replaced with screaming faces, and then I went to go look up the "Chernoff Faces" it was based on and burst out laughing

[-] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 13 points 5 days ago

there is no single consistent canon of "vampire lore." modern fiction writers pick, choose, interpret and reinterpret aspects of previous stories and folklore -- which might not even be about "vampires" -- for their own ends. this absolutely was not how, for example, Bram Stoker's Dracula worked.

[-] Commiejones@hexbear.net 17 points 5 days ago
[-] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 9 points 5 days ago

vampire screaming dracula-flow

[-] tetris11@lemmy.ml 13 points 5 days ago

The recent BBC Dracula series really explores these characteristics, and belief is a huge part

[-] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 5 days ago

Billy Butcher: “Fuck off, you pale cunts! I’ll bollocks every last one of you!”

Vampires: “Oh, shit! He believes in himself! Run away!”

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