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Some lib shit, but surprisingly good take for being published in the Guardian.

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[-] frauddogg@hexbear.net 18 points 5 hours ago

Israel is an illegitimate settler colony that never should have been ceded UN recognition

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 12 points 4 hours ago

that never should have been ceded UN recognition

Just a slight addendum: never should have been ceded UN recognition without the Palestinians getting to weigh in

Insane that the UN just got to unilaterally give away land that had people living on it.

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 8 points 2 hours ago

Average Western rules based order yea

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 33 points 7 hours ago

At this point the un should disband and form un 2 without America.

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 9 points 2 hours ago

cereal1 If the UN is so good, why isn't there a UN 2?

cereal2

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 10 points 4 hours ago

They did, they're calling it BRICS but this time they're starting from the opposite end in regards to membership. I have more hope for this one.

(I'm being a smart aleck; I know BRICS isn't akin to the UN)

[-] lil_tank@hexbear.net 10 points 6 hours ago

Far from unrealistic imo, that might happen at some point in the century

[-] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 48 points 9 hours ago

Israel is a rogue nation. It should be removed from ~~the United~~ Nations

[-] asante@hexbear.net 20 points 6 hours ago

It should be removed

[-] vegeta1@hexbear.net 42 points 8 hours ago

Over 220 UNRWA workers killed the highest in UN history. At this point what else do you say

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 32 points 8 hours ago

This happened to South Africa before it was ended too.

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 10 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

The way Israel has behaved in the last year, they've cemented that they can never become like South Africa; even if a ceasefire is declared and apartheid ended, how do you tell people who've just survived a horrific genocide to just go on and live with the people who were just cheering for them and their children to be turned into unrecognizable gore?

Even if white South Africans had felt the same way about black South Africans that Israelis do about Palestinians, they hadn't yet crossed the threshold into literal holocaust; the plausible deniability that the white South Africans would never have done so makes it easy for bygones to be bygones; Israel has crossed that threshold and the illusion that they never would have conducted a genocide no longer exists.

A one state solution even on October 6th, despite the atrocities of the preceding decades, would have been easy to do and would have been welcomed by the Palestinian people, now that's literally impossible, and Israel will never accept a true two state solution that would allow a Palestinian state to legally have its own army and be able to arm themselves into becoming a formidable force.

Saying all this, it makes me realize how awesome the DPRK is because I do truly believe that if America genuinely approached North Korea with the intent of peaceful coexistence and to put the past behind, I do believe the DPRK would embrace it (of course this requires evidence that it's not being done in bad faith; they would be dealing with the US government); the DPRK, Venezuela, Cuba and even Iran to be honest.

[-] RaisedFistJoker@hexbear.net 4 points 1 hour ago

north korea has explictly stated it no longer seeks reuinification with the south, i think north korea is the last country now that would ever believe in the so called good intensions of the US

[-] Lussy@hexbear.net 1 points 2 hours ago

Even if South Africans had felt the same way about black people that Israelis do about Palestinians

You should rephrase this comment

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 2 points 2 hours ago

Thanks, I re-read that sentence multiple times and kept getting the feeling I really need to rephrase it even if I didn't intend it the way it was written. I should've rephrased it the moment I re-read it.

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 26 points 8 hours ago

How is the United States or the UK not a rouge state and still a member of UN?

Pisssrael can not do it's shit without the United States and their exceptions and flaunting of law.

[-] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 2 points 2 hours ago

the hegemon can't really be rogue

[-] Commiejones@hexbear.net 22 points 8 hours ago

Israel is a rogue nation. It should be removed from ~~the United Nations~~ existence

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