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[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 76 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's rich coming from the economic union that spends 40% of its budget on agricultural subsidies, which they then use to flood global south countries that sign FTAs with the EU with cheap food, ruining the livelihood of peasants and smallholder farmers.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago

When we do it, it’s simply western ingenuity and entrepreneurship. When they do it, it’s sinister.

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

That's not why they do it the livelihoods of peasants in the global south are collateral damage. The intent is cheap food in Europe.

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[–] Parsani@hexbear.net 56 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just make your own cars cheaper you neolib freak

[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago

wojak-nooo BUT HOW WILL WE MILK EVERY PENNY OUT OF THE WORKING CLASS

[–] Tommasi@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago

Weird, I thought subsidised industry couldn't compete with the efficiency and innovation of the free market.

[–] dumpster_dove@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Look what they need to do to mimic a mere fraction of our power parenti-hands

[–] CoolerOpposide@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

denguin something about productive forces

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If they think the price of electric cars is being kept artifically low, have i got some news for them about all their fruit

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 34 points 1 year ago

never mind the U.S. agricultural subsidies. all for free trade until some mild inconvenience happens.

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So China is offering cheaper EVs - which aren’t even going to help climate change on its own, but touted by liberals as the #1 solution - and they’re not even accusing them of being low quality due to its price, but simply taking up more market share and devaluing overpriced western shit?

[–] TokenBoomer@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

Loved you in LaLa Land.

[–] MargotRobbie@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wait a minute, why do you look so familiar... =.=

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You might’ve recognized me in the extremely viral and financially successful feature film, Lars and the Real Girl

[–] MargotRobbie@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Gosling, I should have known that you would have been a silly, silly Hexbear.

Just for that comment, I will make you do 2 more dance numbers in the inevitable sequel.

[–] Jenniferr@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

Nooooooo not cheap electric cars anything but that :(

[–] sicklemode@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The world isn't yours anymore, NATO. Fuck off, seethe and cope.

We're moving forward.

Communism will win and the world's people will be liberated from enslavement by neocolonial capital. Capitulate or fucking rot.

[–] a_blanqui_slate@hexbear.net 23 points 1 year ago (3 children)

There's some older work, specifically Maguire, T., Molina, A., et al (2004) building off of Lee, S. and Ditko, S. (1963) that looks at the disastrous societal consequences the unintended side effects that these 'green energy drives' can produce.

[–] SpoopyKing@lemmy.sdf.org 20 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The solution to cars isn't greener cars. It's replacing cars with something else completely, like human powered vehicles or multi-passenger transport. /c/fuck_cars has the right idea

[–] Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago (2 children)

human powered vehicles

This phrasing made by brain fly over bikes and land on Flintstones cars.

[–] ikilledtheradiostar@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

It's because the car propaganda is so strong.

[–] CombatLiberalism@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

yeonmi-park In Communist North Korea the passengers get out and push the trains

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 16 points 1 year ago

Correct but that is not why the EU is doing this.

[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

human powered vehicles

I am pessimistically imagining Musk and Bezos carried in giant glitzy palanquins

[–] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

No no no, you gotta be optimistic about imagining Musk and Bezos being publically [redacted] by their palanquin bearers

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[–] a_blanqui_slate@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The solution is to not leave fusion investment in the tentacles of power-crazed cyborgs.

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

actually there are massive government research facilities into fusion power and France and the UK work with China on that one. It just hasn't panned out yet

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[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

[stares at names for several minutes looking for the ligma-style joke]

[–] medium_adult_son@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Alfred Molina is real, he also went by Dr. Octopus after successfully defending his thesis on electronic mind-altering evil robot tentacle arms.

[–] a_blanqui_slate@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

His work in that field set back public acceptance of electronic mind-altering evil robot tentacle arm decades.

[–] pudcollar@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

I love the import tariffs on Chinese solar modules under Biden, Trump, and Obama

[–] combat_brandonism@hexbear.net 18 points 1 year ago

unfortunate similarity to parenti-hands

[–] Fishroot@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

their price is kept artificially low by huge state subsidies

we are launching an anti-subsidy investigation

WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT THE ANSWER IS THERE JUST DO STATE SUBSIDIES DO WHAT BISMACK DID IN THE 20TH CENTURY INSTEAD OF DOING WHAT THAT ENGLISH LIBERAL AGENT OF A MONARCH WANTED

[–] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Bismarck's a communist, doncha know. He knew Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels through his niece.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

she's not a nazi under her leadership the german army started having to train using brooms instead of guns and shout bang bang. Nazis are not known for not prioritising militarisation

[–] JuneFall@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago

Within 7 years she managed to increase the military budget by 1/3.

[–] jana@leminal.space 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

huge state subsidies

~ socialism ~

[–] RandomUserName123@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

This is just plain antimarxist.

[–] duderium@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I saw that the cheapest Chinese electric car is $5000. I feel like the Chinese approach of hanging the capitalists with the rope they sell them is working. How can western companies compete with any of this, aside from hobbling themselves with economic nationalism? Barring nuclear war or catastrophic climate collapse, China and the global south will keep developing while the west falls further behind.

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago (4 children)

well they could do subsidies but won't because they are too stupid

[–] YouKnowIt@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They do massive subsidies, Tesla only ever made any money because of carbon credits! They're just trying to squeeze cash out of the consumers too. And it fucking works without an outside competitor

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[–] Fishroot@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Easy, they do tariffs and protectionism. This is how most of the emerging economy in the world during cold war managed to become successful regardless of their ideology (i.e Taiwan, South Korea, Singapore, Japan, etc.)

If the west is really a free market, most non Chinese companies would be wiped out

[–] moujikman@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

China is doing predatory pricing on one of the most expensive purchases that people will do in their lifetime? Neat.

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