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She got half of Burgerland to think that everything they don't like is Russian propaganda, that the evil Russians helped Trump steal the 2016 election, Russia Russia Russia, it's the ultimate thought-terminating cliche now. And even in the face of cold, hard evidence to the contrary (ie: Mueller report, off the top of my head) Libs just stomp their feet and insist that it's still RUSSIAAAAA!!!!!1

I guess Bill O'Riely would be the Republican equivalent of her, but his oafishness and toxic masculinity got the best of him and he ~~ended up losing everything~~ got a multi-million dollar severance package from Fox News and then faded into irrelevancy.

Seriously though, I can't think of anybody that could rival Maddow in terms of how effectively she brainwashed tens of millions of Burgerlanders into believing an absolute, absurd fantasy. You can't have anything that resembles a level-headed discussion with any Lib anymore, largely due to her influence (and others of course, but I feel like she's the most prominent figure in this regard).

Can you think of anyone that could rival her impact? Who else would be in the same league of propagandists in this day?

EDIT: Obviously I forgot to mention Tucker Carlson, but he also got kicked off Fox lol

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[–] underwire212@lemm.ee 3 points 1 hour ago

I literally don’t know anyone who believes that. Of course, my circle of friends is extremely limited and unrepresentative of the general population, so I could be wrong. But you’re also generalizing half the population of a (assuming here) country you don’t even live in lol.

But yeah Rachel Maddow sucks

[–] WeedReference420@hexbear.net 22 points 7 hours ago

I thought people were memeing about how much she blames everything on Russia until I watched a couple of clips of her

[–] kittin@hexbear.net 16 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Red MAGA propaganda - can you believe the libs think they know better than us, rage

Blue MAGA propaganda - we libs know better than them, rage

Synthesis: red libs who know better than everyone how to loot the country by enraging everyone as a distraction

[–] Feline@hexbear.net 22 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Ehhhh that's giving her waaaaaaaaaaay too much credit. Not many people watch MSNBC

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 14 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah this is insane and would imply Maddow is good at what she does lol there’s not many burgers who give a shit about Russian interference

[–] SevenSkalls@hexbear.net 8 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Ya if there were, Trump probably wouldn't have won lol. Since all the Russia propaganda is generally aimed at the libs, but it still wasn't enough to get them to go out and vote.

[–] RiotDoll@hexbear.net 44 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

i feel like it's a mistake to let the face of these operations have too much credit. This is a performance, and it is an editorial team that sets her agenda, it's a crew that manages her image, and it's the network that gives her the platform - the personalities of these people are there for your consumption and an icon you're encouraged to relate to and see as a teacher.

A friendly feminine presence who is there every night to tell you how to be an obedient little liberal

but never forget she's just a performer in an ensemble.

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 25 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

It's plausible that Russia preferred Trump to his Democratic rivals, and did a little bit of trolling to fuck with America. But only to the tune of 0.1% of their military budget, not the 20% of GDP it would take to get anywhere near what BlueMAGA keeps accusing.

[–] LanyrdSkynrd@hexbear.net 10 points 8 hours ago

My impression is it's less about pushing Trump and more about causing conflict within the US. There were Internet Research Agency(commonly called a troll farm) linked accounts pushing both sides of the COVID stuff, both sides during the BLM protests, etc.

Dems blaming things on Russian disinformation plays right into that goal, too. If you want to rile up the US populace, make people feel like everyone they disagree with is brainwashed by evil outside forces. Republicans did the same shit with TikTok, blaming China for young leftists, trans people, etc.

[–] sexywheat@hexbear.net 23 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Well Kamala's campaign spent over 1 billion dollars and it didn't seem to make any difference che-laugh

[–] Spongebobsquarejuche@hexbear.net 18 points 10 hours ago

That had to be money laundering.

[–] ZWQbpkzl@hexbear.net 56 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I guess Bill O'Riely would be the Republican equivalent of her

Wrong, Bill is the shoulders which Rachel stands on. Every cable news talking head is copying his game. Bill walked so Tucker could run. He's only irrelevant now because he accelerated the american conservative past him.

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 36 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (16 children)

I'd even go so far as to say he's a couple rungs down in terms of history. Tucker is standing on Glen Beck who is standing on O'Rielly.

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[–] SteamedHamberder@hexbear.net 55 points 15 hours ago (12 children)

John Stewart was a cheerleader for norms and civility from about 2002-2015. He defined what as worthy of ridicule (Kucinich, Chelsea Manning, occupy movement) and ultimately what was worthy of respect .

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[–] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 72 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (3 children)

I heard from my mom last night that Putin directed Iran to tell Hamas to do the 10/7 attack. It was calculated to divide the US so we would be less effective in supporting Ukraine. This led to me yelling for two hours, which I don't feel good about, but I'm tired of explaining that when examining the world you have to strive to find plausible explanations for why things are happening, not something as fucking stupid as saying the people of Gaza were perfectly satisfied until a bunch of outside agitators got them stirred up.

Edit: She actually doesn't watch MSNBC. This is NYT brain. She used to be fine with criticizing media that promoted the war in Iraq, but doing that now means you're just like Trump.

[–] StillNoLeftLeft@hexbear.net 2 points 1 hour ago

I feel like your last sentence there captures something very important about the impact of current discourses pretty much everywhere in the west. And it feels more like something the libs in power prefer then are againts as it creates this hard divide that is kind of difficult to pin down.

[–] blobjim@hexbear.net 33 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 8 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

Admins, make this an emote

[–] seas_surround@hexbear.net 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 6 points 6 hours ago

Oh really? The full image is much funnier

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 48 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (4 children)

Liberals completely gave up on self crit at some point in the last 6-8 years

It used to be how they showed they were 'better' than their counterparts, but Trump just broke so many brains

[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 42 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

I fully believe a significant amount of libs opposed the Iraq war because it was started by Bush Jr. If it was a Democrat they wouldn't have been against it. Nevermind all the Dems that started it. GOP = bad, Dem = good, and for the parts that overlap, it's bad if GOP is currently in charge and a necessary evil/tolerable inconvenience if the Dems are in charge.

See also: Children in cages at the border

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 12 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

Didn’t something like 90% of Americans support the invasion when it happened? The libs were only against it afterwards.

[–] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 11 points 6 hours ago

Yes. Virtually everyone except the actual left was on board at first. It was bananas.

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