Can we please just build a new star wars canon based off of Andor. It seems ridiculous to look at all the hard work and sacrifice that these characters put into painstakingly building a doomed revolution, but then the day is saved by some fuckass wizard boy who's dad is Himmler.
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And then they let the nazis come back like 10 years later
I will never recognize the new canon.
There's some neat bits buried in the mountain of mid. The New Republic Operation Paperclipping a bunch of Imperial scientists was a nice surprise in one of the late/bad Mando seasons
That part's true to life
I really liked Ben Mendelsohn's portrayal in Rogue One. I figured this was going to be a cameo, but it seems like he'll be pretty integral.
This is my favorite kind of Star Wars, though. You only get a little taste of it in the original trilogy, but it's obvious there's a bunch of military brass trying to do the-trains-run-on-time fascism post-Clone Wars, but you have this weird Space Wizard wasting budgets on super weapons while his trash can cyborg of an enforcer lingers around their meetings and offers one-liners shitting on their strategies that they have to entertain or else he'll choke someone and no one is sure if they actually have to put up with him or not.
There are a couple of deleted scenes in the OT that really played into this, too.
Really? I'll have to look them up
Nice, thanks for the link. That first guy's delivery is just 
Haha yeah. I love how this cut scene drives home a point that is a bit more subtle in the actual film- that the Empire is extremely overextended and unstable right from the jump. Like this guy in the first half hour of the movie is like wait what you ended the Senate were fucking cooked. It makes a lot of the rest of the OT make more sense
Yeah, I don't think I picked up on that overextended subtext until far later... maybe ROTJ when the Emperor shows up to the Death Star II. I recall there being a lot of "this shit is behind schedule" vibes.
Also, I'm not super clear on things, but I assume that most of these generals are Navy guys from the Clone Wars? I assume that after the Empire is declared, they sweep the CIS quickly without Palps, Dooku, or Grevious. Even still, there's like ~15 years between Rise of the Sith and Andor so are all the ships just doing fashwave for a decade and a half?
Yeah they are mostly Republic officers. One of my favorite little lines in Andor is when he says he's been fighting the Empire since he was 6. Palpatine established the Empire when Andor was a teenager, so he's saying he spent his childhood fighting the violent colonial extraction committed by the Republic.
Can you imagine any other star wars show talking about rebelling against the Republic? Incredible.
I believe the whole Imperial Navy got rapidly built up in about a decade after RotS, and it suffers from lowest-bidder mass production. Stormtroopers are shit conscripts because all the clones rapidly aged to death, TIE fighters are mostly cheapo bullshit with no shields. Rebel ships are a lot of legacy expensive hardware, and technology is pretty stagnant so they're just all around way better. The main part of the Empire rises and falls in less than 20 years, before being relegated to a few rump states that end up coming back in the new trilogy.
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Maybe they'll manage to include Glorp Shitto
Gonna make him one of the procurement representatives for Space Northrop Grumman
Please no jedi shit, Disney.
I can't tell if this is satire or not.😅
Please be good
I'm fully expecting Disney meddling to ruin it (or even for it to have just been lightning in a bottle), but goddamn do I hope I'm wrong.
According to the show runner Disney has given them basically total freedom and didn't give them a single note about the second season so far. That's a good sign if it's true but I still don't think anything can top the first season, but I hope I'm wrong.
calling it now space IRA
I hope we get the most insufferable Imperial project manager
Is he going to send fundraising texts?
Loyal citizens, This is Darth Vader. To ensure PEACE and SECURITY across our galaxy, we must complete the Death Star project. Your support will accelerate its construction and secure our shared future for our people.
Unite for Galactic Peace...Support the Death Star Initiative and crush the so-called "Rebel Alliance" terrorists.
Contribute in the next hour and your donation will have 900% MATCH.
Even after the events of A New Hope, yes
raising money
It's the Death Star a tech startup now? For the metaphor to be on point it needs to be over time and over budget but also the recipient of seemingly infinite military industrial complex funding.
Probably lobbying senators
"music stops with record scratch" Bet you wonder how I got into this mess ;) "All Star starts playing"
We’re gonna build the Death Star folks, and the Rebel Alliance is going to pay for it 
I like that capitlaism is the problem. In space there are infinite resources, infinite energy, we can create infinite free labor, and somehow still capitlaism is the problem. This is somehow both on brand for star wars and missing the point.
I like the extended canon stuff, at least pre-Disney anyway. Fell off before the newer movies, tbh. When people get excited over seemingly random stuff, I think it's neat. Like Barbara Hambly nerding out when some Star Trek detail she makes up becomes canon in the series.