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Hello everyone! Hestia here with a new Megathread! Years ago, before I transitioned and when I was still in college I took an anthropology class. My favorite part of the class was when we were covering different gender customs across the globe and got to make a report on one of them. I can't remember exactly which one I chose for that project, but what I do remember is a map with different pins scattered on it with various forms of gender-queerness. I decided to track it down and share it with you folks!

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?ll=8.016975588774075%2C64.4248907814756&z=2&mid=1zDWxhBN5aOofwpE-FkZWQsiFDlE

Edit: you have to open this in a browser, if you're on a phone it will automatically try to open it in Google maps and won't bring up the info.

This map provides a brief summary of these genders, but does not go in depth. If you find any you're interested in, feel free to do some further research and share your findings here. I'll pin a comment to this post you can attach them. I'm going to share a couple that I found interesting and decided to look further into myself, both of them are non-binary and native american in origin.

The first one I want to talk about is the Winkte, which is a third gender role that was particulatly notable in the Lakota tribe The Winkte are seen as half-men, half-women, and considered sacred. They are typically AMAB and historically have served unique roles in matters of romance and matchmaking and often served as intermediaries for prospecting couples and their families. They also participated in war parties, functioning primarily as witnesses to battle and as doctors to care for the injured. They were also seen as seers, able to forsee paths to victory.

https://www.sdpb.org/blogs/arts-and-culture/the-winkte-and-the-hundred-in-hand/

This next one I'm going to talk about seems mostly local to the Zuni people called the "Lhamana" and I find the Zuni culture to be particularly fascinating, even just doing a cursory glance at it.

Gender roles were well defined in Zuni culture, but the Zuni also valued the concept of a "middle" as it represented stability. This originates from their creation myth, which I won't go in detail here because I don't feel qualified to summarize it, but it's in the link down below.

The Zuni culture is pretty neat and they don't refer to gender when talking about children. They believed that gender wasn't an inborn trait but something you acquired as you approached puberty. I wish this was the western approach, but alas.

As children approach puberty they begin to differentiate through different hair styles or clothing choices. AFAB Lhamana would grind corn and make a bowl of stew when they get their first period. There's probably some cultural significance to this, but I'm not going to do a deep dive on it right now. AMAB Lhamana would start to wear dresses once they hit puberty and start performing women's work. Both AMAB and AFAB Lhamana were allowed to switch between male and female gender roles as they pleased.

https://owlcation.com/social-sciences/The-Middle-Gender-in-Zuni-Religion

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[โ€“] gaystyleJoker@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

okay. with the encouragement of multiple people, i decided to say something:

pee peewait, fuck! no!

[โ€“] Josephine_Spiro@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

D: One day you will be able to say something, I believe in you

.Was going to call you pee pee girl, but do you want the pee pee girl bit to stop? Wanna make sure I'm not making you uncomfortable, so if you want it to stop that's fine. Or if you just think its unfunny and want it to stop that's cool too

[โ€“] gaystyleJoker@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

lol you're just fine :) i don't mind it and i honestly like the attention

[โ€“] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Ah who needs girl clothes when you can just listen to shoegaze all day long kel-bliss

[โ€“] LocalOaf@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

stuff

All clothes are girl clothes when you're a girl and you're the one wearing them

[โ€“] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yes and all bodies are girl bodies when you're a girl wearing one. No need for hormones! begone

[โ€“] LocalOaf@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean I wouldn't disagree with that if someone says they're a girl and aren't on hrt but I didn't mean to hit a nerve and become a small crab being destroyed by a laser from a big crab, sorry hex-crab lea-sad

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[โ€“] Thallo@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What about listening to shoegaze in girl clothes?

[โ€“] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago

Fuck you're right ok I'm gonna go shopping this week

[โ€“] ScreamoBMO@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago

I fucking love my trans comrades so much trans-heart

[โ€“] gaystyleJoker@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago (9 children)
[โ€“] PaX@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I wouldn't know, they never let me say my X sentence in that regular language I defined, hmpf!~

[โ€“] gaystyleJoker@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

i am formally giving you permission to say it

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[โ€“] Josephine_Spiro@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I have you marked down for saying something on January 18th, at 6pm martian time

[โ€“] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago

That's not how Martian timekeeping works...

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[โ€“] Tomboymoder@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My mom says if you have nothing pee pee to say you shouldnโ€™t say it at all

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[โ€“] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I think we should make a tracha-lite (tracha but less chaotic/probably with a spray bottle to keep users like me contained). There's been at least a few people (4~ come to mind) I've seen and talked to who said normal tracha can be overwhelming or intimidating.

I know we talked about that a bit in the tracha mods chat, but figure that tossing the idea here would probably also help it not be drowned out by other chats (might make a post or idk later as well, idk)

[โ€“] Yukiko@hexbear.net 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Overwhelming is an understatement. Unless I pay attention to it constantly, I couldn't possibly hope to keep up with it. I actually had to disable notifications from element to my watch cause it was draining the battery.

[โ€“] Hestia@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago

Yeah, my battery was dropping by the minute.

[โ€“] lilypad@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago

I might join if theres a more chill tracha, id at least check it out and see if it works for my brain

Yeah, having more than one room for parallel conversations would be nice.

[โ€“] yewler@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago

I would like to express interest. I keep trying to look at tracha but it really is so overwhelming. I would love a sort of tracha-lite if it was manageable

[โ€“] Ambii@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They weren't lying, this progesterone really do be making me eepy.

Also my hair is like, ridiculously soft suddenly. Like almost overnight, even my girlfriend noticed it. I'm definitely not imagining things and I haven't changed anything in my hair care. Idk where this came from but I'm very happy about it.

[โ€“] lilypad@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

::: spoiler life is weird Meds have been helping... But still have all the (lack of) executive capacity, and seriously feeling the avoidant side of myself, getting very anxious about bringing people further into my life. Ive been so social lately, i feel like i may be overdoing it, and im trying to deal with that without overcorrecting and cutting all my friends and new aquaintances out of my life for the next 3 months catgirl-flop

[โ€“] Hestia@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Don't burn yourself out, any true friends will understand if you need to take a step back and have some alone time

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[โ€“] nemmybun@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago

Who wants to see my tatas?

alphys-smug

[โ€“] AshenWolf@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (9 children)

I actually have free time again, what a concept! So, I've returned to creating character portraits. I want to compare two I don't believe I've shown on here. The first uses the older software, and the second one the newer software. The second one also meets the 16-color requirement, while the first does not. There's also a pixel on each that needs fixing. Other than that, which one do you all think looks better?

Also adding a bonus one, made with the newer software

Bonus round 2: Luna "Castro" redone

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[โ€“] Yor@hexbear.net 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (5 children)

the surgeon I was going with backed out because he doesn't feel confident enough for my specific case yet. he said he would try to research and contact me again in a few weeks to see if he found any leads for where I go

cw: suicide, hopelessness, ventingI really want to kill myself. the drive is so real. I tried to tell him I accept that there's uncertainty on outcomes and complications and even having a phallus alone would help me so much, but that wasn't enough.

exhausting every way you can think of trying to convince someone to take a chance and pull you from the misery only for him to kindly and firmly refute each is difficult. feeling completely backed into a corner with nothing but acceptance that this grim era will continue without the hope I was holding onto, it really is difficult

I just want someone to help me

[โ€“] Hestia@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Is there any chance of finding a different doctor? Preferably one that isn't a cis man, they seem to stand in the way of any trans healthcare you need to pursue. Luckily enough all the people I have worked with in gender care have been women, and they haven't been a roadblock to me in any way. We'll see what happens once I pursue bottom surgery though.

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[โ€“] Yukiko@hexbear.net 11 points 1 day ago

Please don't give up. Keep looking. Even if it can't happen now, I'm sure someone will be able to help you.

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[โ€“] Thallo@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I spent years putting together my wardrobe. If I start hormones, are they still gonna fit??

Oh shit, this is bad! Will my new fleshy bits be contained??

[โ€“] Yukiko@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago

You'll have time. The changes aren't instantaneous and take a good while. But, if all goes well, yes, you'll have to replace it eventually.

[โ€“] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Bad news, they might not fit because good news your body is gonna change shape

I had to toss most of my old boy clothes (way too tight in the chest and ass now). I don't fit some of the clothes I got earlier in my transition as well :(

My doctor: get your cholesterol under control and then we can raise your dose

Okay but I'm too depressed to have be able to stick with a diet can we just try increasing the estrogen and manage everything from there?

I unilaterally decided to up my dose my just taking more. Only up to the minimum recommended dose for two weeks now I think. I haven't felt better in ages and finding the motivation to eat healthy, get exercise, and socialize, has never been greater. We really need to drill into the medical community how important HRT is and to get up to an effective dose asap. Maybe it's a placebo but it feels real and the effects are real so w/e.

[โ€“] ashinadash@hexbear.net 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Bit idea: dismiss all non-queer media forever

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[โ€“] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

looking in the mirror and seeing a visibly fucked up clocky trans girl, which is fair because i am a visibly fucked up clocky trans girl

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