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Hello everyone! Hestia here with a new Megathread! Years ago, before I transitioned and when I was still in college I took an anthropology class. My favorite part of the class was when we were covering different gender customs across the globe and got to make a report on one of them. I can't remember exactly which one I chose for that project, but what I do remember is a map with different pins scattered on it with various forms of gender-queerness. I decided to track it down and share it with you folks!

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?ll=8.016975588774075%2C64.4248907814756&z=2&mid=1zDWxhBN5aOofwpE-FkZWQsiFDlE

Edit: you have to open this in a browser, if you're on a phone it will automatically try to open it in Google maps and won't bring up the info.

This map provides a brief summary of these genders, but does not go in depth. If you find any you're interested in, feel free to do some further research and share your findings here. I'll pin a comment to this post you can attach them. I'm going to share a couple that I found interesting and decided to look further into myself, both of them are non-binary and native american in origin.

The first one I want to talk about is the Winkte, which is a third gender role that was particulatly notable in the Lakota tribe The Winkte are seen as half-men, half-women, and considered sacred. They are typically AMAB and historically have served unique roles in matters of romance and matchmaking and often served as intermediaries for prospecting couples and their families. They also participated in war parties, functioning primarily as witnesses to battle and as doctors to care for the injured. They were also seen as seers, able to forsee paths to victory.

https://www.sdpb.org/blogs/arts-and-culture/the-winkte-and-the-hundred-in-hand/

This next one I'm going to talk about seems mostly local to the Zuni people called the "Lhamana" and I find the Zuni culture to be particularly fascinating, even just doing a cursory glance at it.

Gender roles were well defined in Zuni culture, but the Zuni also valued the concept of a "middle" as it represented stability. This originates from their creation myth, which I won't go in detail here because I don't feel qualified to summarize it, but it's in the link down below.

The Zuni culture is pretty neat and they don't refer to gender when talking about children. They believed that gender wasn't an inborn trait but something you acquired as you approached puberty. I wish this was the western approach, but alas.

As children approach puberty they begin to differentiate through different hair styles or clothing choices. AFAB Lhamana would grind corn and make a bowl of stew when they get their first period. There's probably some cultural significance to this, but I'm not going to do a deep dive on it right now. AMAB Lhamana would start to wear dresses once they hit puberty and start performing women's work. Both AMAB and AFAB Lhamana were allowed to switch between male and female gender roles as they pleased.

https://owlcation.com/social-sciences/The-Middle-Gender-in-Zuni-Religion

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[–] SwitchyWitchyandBitchy@hexbear.net 27 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My gender today is girlrotting fail witch.

[–] Yor@hexbear.net 18 points 3 days ago
[–] KrupskayaPraxis@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 3 days ago

I'm no longer a kissless virgin, just a regular virgin 😎

[–] Yor@hexbear.net 21 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

surgery stuff (positive)finally argued my case hard enough that the surgeon I'm going with says he feels comfortable moving forward with insurance authorization

lost respect for him over the last month, but I don't really need to respect him for him to do surgery. I'll take the W

now back to electrolysis once again. πŸ˜…


I've also learned all the hiragana and katana characters and can remember them without reference transshork-happy

need to learn more words and kanji now. it was really intimidating to finally start learning japanese, but it's really not so bad once I got used to it. I can slowly start reading words in media I like and that's so exciting, even if it takes me so long for now

[–] rtstragedy@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

unsolicited and frankly overbearing excitement about learning japanesei found some success with anki + flashcards in the beginning after learning the hira/kata. there was a deck on anki web (or was it anki connect? you can just download them) that had voice lines and slowly introduced kanji and vocabulary, so you're learn full sentences. on the back side there'd be furigana.

i soon moved on to watching a lot of shows with japanese subs and a dictionary open (using the mpv script to make flashcards and auto-clipboard the text subs for faster lookups). i watched Non Non Biyori (for easy language), then Bocchi this way (only saw it with English subs for the first time last Friday...) as well as re-watched a couple seasons of Kaguya-sama (this one was much harder language...). it was kind of both incredible and also kinda depressing that a single 20 minute episode turned into a 3 hour affair, but i think when I finally got the jokes I appreciated it way more...

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[–] Josephine_Spiro@hexbear.net 17 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Feel like I need to stop using this site because I need IRL friends since I'm very lonley, but all the queer groups in my area are full of radlibs and Zionists :( Like its unhealthy to have my main form of social interaction outside of my job be this website, but there is very few people who will click with my interests and queerness

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The trans group chat is pretty cool. And there's a decent level of separation from how hexbear is. Join us sometime catgirl-heart

[–] Josephine_Spiro@hexbear.net 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I joined it briefly when it came out but the volume of messages was too much for me, as I was either feeling like I was missing out on something, or I would be flooded with notifications. Thanks for the recommendation though

[–] SadArtemis@hexbear.net 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Admittedly this is the second or third time I've heard such things (from different people). I'm technically a mod of tracha (though never do mod things, just chat a lot) but am not speaking on behalf of the rest here but- maybe we might start up a "tracha-lite" or branch out into having different channels for things like difficult/sad discussion topics. I can let you know when that happens if you want rat-salute-2

If a trachat light happens I would be up for joining

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

its unhealthy to have my main form of social interaction outside of my job be this website,

Universally or personally speaking? 'Cause I ended up in your situation, for so many reasons.

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[–] rtstragedy@hexbear.net 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

maybe this is weird of me, but i kinda see bearsite as a means to an end these days; I see it as a place to find people with my interests and who i like talking to, and hopefully I can build something deeper with them. I also find tracha a little overwhelming so i don't chat too much, but I do like me some small groups or 1-on-1 things.

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[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

LIFTING UPDATESo I am STILL not lifting yet, it's been like a month. I stopped taking tramadol and like I wanna get back, but Idk if it will make it better. What if without the pain receptors being numbed, it'll just hurt and be excruciating and I die? What if I rot instead???

I like that my chronic pain/fatigue is maybe stopping me from doing the thing that could make my chronic pain/fatigue less bad.

catgirl-cry I am never going to be the beautiful muscledyke........ tfw not athletic........

In other news I have the most creeping feeling that Fallow isn't a one-run game and that stuff changes, more than just the sealed door, if you play it again. I'll have to go back and puzzle over it. Give it more kisses, my beloved.

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 20 points 3 days ago (9 children)

How do you talk without your vocal chords deciding to randomly sound like they're sick for the next 24 hours sometimes

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[–] Eco@hexbear.net 19 points 3 days ago

i love my wife ngl

[–] gaystyleJoker@hexbear.net 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

she zuck my mark till i erberg. this reads like a fucking eco post

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[–] sweet_pecan@hexbear.net 19 points 3 days ago

i had "lady" like not only are you misgendering me, i feel both old and condescended to too. a triple! why wont people stop. sob.

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 16 points 3 days ago

Once again just woke up and drinking coffee

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 18 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I love third sexing in anthropology. Progressive win

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[–] SuperZutsuki@hexbear.net 9 points 3 days ago

Anti-recommendation for shoes sold by Aphixta on aliexpress. They're very poorly made all over but most importantly the heels are wobbly and seem likely to break easily.

[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 12 points 3 days ago

cw yankee electoralismi got the most pathetic liberal comment on youtube after i said the blue team are just doing blue fascism and it's beyond pathetic how libs start waking up now again when the red team starts doing red fascism (it's the same fascism)

" you realize the β€œblue team” is not for that? You do realize that right??? And this song was during when β€œthe red team” was in power still. "

each question mark just fills me with more joy marx-ok this was under a RATM song because it's topical to fight against the machine again for the next four years

the song was released while Clinton was in office too! like goddamn

[–] 0x2640@hexbear.net 10 points 3 days ago
[–] Hime@hexbear.net 15 points 3 days ago

I did a module on social anthro and women's history and it covered similar bits. Best part of uni and it was only a side module.

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 19 points 3 days ago (11 children)
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[–] AcidSmiley@hexbear.net 12 points 3 days ago

Miaut voran mit festem Schritt sabo

Arbeitercatgirls, kommt ihr mit? catgirl-salute

Wir sind die queere Garde des Proletariats left-unity-4

Wir sind die queere Garde des Proletariats trans-hammer-sickle

[–] Moss@hexbear.net 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Is it Gender of me to shit out my asshole like I've swallowed a nuclear bomb because that's what I be doing

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