Imagine letting people use their devices how they want to.
this post was submitted on 20 Dec 2024
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People with older relatives especially will love this becoming the norm
Under socialism phones will have physical buttons, maybe even physical keyboards, you will be able to open them and repair/upgrade them until 15 years pass and you need a new one, while booting you will be presented with a 
splash screen and a small area under where you can see the logs. Anything else is revisionism.
We should return to Stalker-style PDAs, as a bit
I can understand them, I just don't like them because they're slower than just pressing a fucking button.
FFS stop reinventing the wheel and make something worth while and maybe people will use it.
I hate gestures so much. Zoom in on a photo, pan left to see the left side, and the browser goes back. FUCK
The worst is tapping the left corner and springing back to the top.
Absolutely Nobody <—-asked for this
Apple is going to eliminate this and present this as a new feature for Iphone 23. Like, no hardware or gui or optimization improvements, just this spring to the top bullshit is gone and sales will be up 200% percent
I like tapping the top center and scrolling to the top
I understand, it can be useful for some people, I can totally see the benefits
Btw just stand right here for a second
Genuinely I use this several times a day, and it’s really frustrating when I come across an app that doesn’t support it
Even android isn't free of this. Every time I try to scroll up on a website there's like a 50/50 chance that it will interpret that as a refresh.
Or when I'm in my e-reader app and I go to turn the page, but the OS interprets that as wanting to swipe out of the app. Or when my skin is too dry and the touchscreen just doesn't respond to half of my inputs anyway.
Android has had swipe gestures for over 6 years now... They just let the user choose between swipe gestures and buttons...
or.... gasp.... you can have both at the same time that do different things on android
Android has gestures too? I have it on my phone, you can change it in the settings
and judging by the screenshot, the tweeter knew that, and was just complaining that their preferred way wasn't the default/only option
Imagine complaining about having the possibility of customization
The gamer mindset.
I want a phone specifically designed to annoy aesthete fascionistas. big physical buttons that click loudly, wide bezels, lots of IO and display outputs, full size DisplayPort, USB type B, Occulink, SPDIF, all fonts converted to Comic Sans
And 4:3 aspect ratio.
I learned about this thing from Boonta Vista (they call it the San Remo Jellyfish). It's not exactly that, but it's close.
I like the size, I miss smaller phones in general, this thing would probably feel like a bar of soap in your pocket
lol some early adopt everything (even though broke) friend of mine just bought the New™ iPhone (always gotta have the latest and most expensive!) and was complaining that the gesture mechanism is too sensitive and misinterpreting him like crazy.
I guess that's why they cost 3-4x the price of the peasant phones the rest of us mudeaters use to look at memes and send emojis to chats.
There are accessibility settings to change the sensitivity for a lot of gestures. Your friend should google their issue
Be serious you know they use Bing as a search engine.
"hey Siri can you do a bing search for how to turn down my ringer because I am in the toilet at work"
I mean it’s not even a physical button so it might as well be a gesture 
every time i use my partner's iphone i end up giving up trying to "go back" or "exit this app" or "home screen". it's some little thing in the left top? impossible to remember. and there's a little orb that you can move around and press to bring up some menu? idk, i have a normal android phone and there's three little hieroglyphs at the bottom that just do the basic navigation stuff, easy.
The little orb is an accessibility feature, though I've only ever actually seen it used by people who broke their phones in such a way that the physical buttons stopped working.
I use gestures on my Moto and I prefer them. But each to their own
I want to be able to pick up my phone without it interpreting my fingers brushing against the edges of the screen as five different gestures.
Swipe is too overloaded on phones. Sometimes the same gesture is tied to two different actions. Swiping up overloads scrolling with getting the home screen. Another is swiping right for going back, when several apps also use that gesture too; gmail archive comes to mind. I prefer the buttons (digital and analog) on Android because it's a much different input that won't confuse different actions.
We have these incredible devices with many sensors, and the best we can do is smudge the screen more often?
Ukraine flag moment
Nah the swipe is superior. Most phones don’t use a physical button anyway, it’s a fake button you just can’t use that part of the “screen”. And personally I don’t want a physical button back, the physical home button was the thing that died on both of my iPod touches and my first phone. A home button is just another piece that can break.
Screen breaks and then all your buttons don't work
If the screen breaks to the point of not receiving touch input you almost certainly wouldn't be able to use it with a physical button either
If the screen didn't take up.the entire front of the phone it'd be less likely to break.
“If you just had less usable surface area there’s less area to break”
The point-of-failure argument is a good one, but it's worth saying that Apple fixed this before eventually removing the home button: In later iPhones with the home button it didn't actually physically click, it was capacitive with haptic feedback to simulate the feeling of a click.
lol android does both
I like my swipes 
I. FUCKING. HATE. TREE-FRUIT FARMING.
The hunters all stand around my orchard and shout go apple boy go
Options 🌈
My phone has it halfway. I hate buttons taking screen space, so it has like little lines in the bottom that you can pull up and serve the same purpose of the buttons.
Best of both worlds?
My android doesn't have a home button but it does have volume buttons and a lock button are those also not present on an iPhone?
I have the last iPhone version that even pretended to have a button, I’ve had it for 8+ years now and it meets my needs, if i could replace the battery without the phone bricking itself I’d keep using it for another 8.