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Vid clip - https://xcancel.com/tsarnick/status/1842401670225125539

I made the big mistake of watching that. And now [redacted]. Holy mother of fuck are tech bros evil.

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[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago (2 children)

How can it solve the problem if all it does is spit out (usually incorrect) versions of current data?

[–] anarcho_blinkenist@hexbear.net 24 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (4 children)

that's not "all it does". machine learning can and does produce or newly-define novel outputs from the broken down components and variables of collected inputs and can help recognize novel patterns within them. there's not even one "it" because of the different machine learning methods and constructs.

That doesn't mean any of it is the solution to climate change. We already know the things causing climate change and how to stop it, and have known since like the early 80s at least. There's no "new pattern we can't find in complex data." It's the same pattern we've been hearing about for decades. I don't understand what even a real hypothetical superintelligent general ai system would solve here. *powers on* "uhhh... yeah degrow production of these pointless commodities with their hyper-globalized network of staged production and distribution, abolish cars and lawns, and scale back militaries especially the US military by gargantuan proportions and uhhh... abolish the capitalist system which undergirded all of this. you're welcome"

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And then they immediately shoot their Machine-God in the head because it didn't spit out a recipe for Turbo-Fluxonium or something that lets them violate thermodynamics.

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 17 points 1 month ago

"Suggested trains and high density housing and ending wars/petrodollar, restart"

[–] bumpusoot@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

Yeah. Any AI worth it's salt is just going to address climate change by pointing out the blinking obvious solutions already present and well-known.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 15 points 1 month ago

It really is throwing everything on a ritual pyre, including the planet itself, hoping the smoke rises to techno-olympus and pleases the future machine god enough to come up with a techno-magic solution to undo the pyre burning.

[–] TheBroodian@hexbear.net 7 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The thing about this that gets me is that I am willing to believe that machine learning has worthwhile uses, but fuck if I know what they are because the market has decided that it's best used for making art and writing. Both of which it's absolutely shit at.

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

So far the actual good uses are simple and direct stuff like finding tumors early or controlling agricultural robots. Things that can be trained within a specific context to improve a process. But that's not bazinga enough for tech bros to hype like some solution for everything.

[–] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's the totally-not-religious-or-occult belief that there is surely a solution to climate collapse that requires accelerating it by hoping a magic data regurgitation machine comes up with a magic solution to carbon waste by feeding it more energy and letting it expel more carbon waste.

My contempt for self-described "leftists" that buy into that totally-not-religious-or-occult belief is vast and deep.