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[-] glibg10b@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Von Der is not Afrikaans, but Van Der is.

Also, Apartheid ended 30 years ago and was the politicians' doing, not the citizens'. South Africa wasn't a democracy, remember?

I think it's fair to say that at least 90% of white South Africans agree that Apartheid was a bad thing.

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago

I think it's fair to say that at least 90% of white South Africans agree that Apartheid was a bad thing.

In much the same way 90% of Germans suddenly had very negative opinions about Nazism in 1945.

[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think it's fair to say that at least 90% of white South Africans agree that Apartheid was a bad thing.

I wish. In my personal experience it's simply not true beyond a surface level "apartheid bad". Any deeper conversation or questioning reveals the truth.

[-] the_kid@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

do you know any good history books about apartheid SA? I embarrassingly don't know much about it myself

[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I learnt most of it at school, but Max Coleman's analysis of apartheid as a crime against humanity should be a good book explaining just how horrific it was. I think it's available for free here. The same website has lots of good articles too, including a basic summary of what apartheid was .

https://www.sahistory.org.za/archive/crime-against-humanity-analysing-repression-apartheid-state-edited-max-coleman

This summary, and the content in the "articles" section at the bottom of the page, is also pretty good.

https://www.sahistory.org.za/article/history-apartheid-south-africa

[-] the_kid@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

rat-salute

going to check this out, thanks. I think it's literally not even covered in US schools, I don't remember ever learning about it.

[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Wow they don't cover it at all? Here in South Africa, we even learn about MLK Jr and Malcolm X, the Vietnam war and cold war in general in history. And of course we learn about our own country.

[-] the_kid@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

I've been out of school for a long time so I could be remembering wrong, but I don't remember ever learning about it. everything I do know is from what I've read/watched/heard and it's all very cursory. I mean, we barely even learn about slavery in our own country, so I guess it makes sense.

[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah I guess so. Part of the US propaganda.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 12 points 1 year ago

Beneficiaries of Apartheid saying it was bad now that it is over means very little. Ghouls like the Musks still run roughshod over the world with the spoils they took and still exploit minorities wherever it benefits them.

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

All those unfortunate H1B visa people that have to put up with his shit. Fuckin bleak.

[-] glibg10b@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

We don't like to be associated with the muskrat

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

South Africa wasn't a democracy, remember?

I tried googling for this but I'm finding that while the elected government was extremely oppressive, it still held elections.

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