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tl;dr: millennials are afraid of failure.

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[-] pillow@hexbear.net 36 points 10 months ago

outside of famine/war conditions, birth rates have historically been (much) higher among people (much) poorer than most americans. I think the difference is more that social support structures are weak, "standard of living" expectations are high, education is both expensive and necessary, and contraception/abortion are widely available and relatively destigmatized

[-] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

People are poor but if you are poor and have kids there is a huge stigma attached to it if you were raised middle and upper middle class.

[-] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 10 months ago

Yeah this is a huge part of it. Boomers were able to give their kids good lives. Millennial can't even give their kids the same standard they have. People want to give their kids a better life than they had, but this is impossible without a house and a yard and extra money for game consoles and extracurricular and playmates and all the shit that was taken for granted in a 90s childhood.

[-] Jacobo_Villa_Lobos@hexbear.net 1 points 10 months ago

Nail on the head. Would my hypothetical kids be fine without the treats I was given as a child? Probably.

Would it be exhausting to justify internally, explain to people, and face judgement from family? Definitely.

[-] CrimsonSage@hexbear.net 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

This is arguable as a lot if the "all people before capitalism were mud farmers" claptrap comes from the fact that the priests of capitalism always leave non market/capitalist goods out of their calculations. Like medieval pesants were wealthier than early modern farmhands because they had the commons.

[-] pillow@hexbear.net 1 points 10 months ago

hm the fed's survey of consumer finances says the median household wealth in the us is $192,900 as of 2023 and that seems pretty high

[-] ped_xing@hexbear.net 2 points 10 months ago

That covers ~15 years of the average cost to raise a child. Huh, maybe this is the source of the child labor push.

[-] CrimsonSage@hexbear.net 1 points 10 months ago

Not sure what this has to do with my comment.

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