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Germany is wild because it's still infested with nazis and yet they have all these anti-nazi laws which do nothing and the people end up supporting fascists in Israel.
a big chunk of the german left is part of the "antideutsch" movement/ideology, whatever you want to call it
the gist of them is that they "compensate" for the horrors of nazi germany by being against the existence of the german state, and also extremely pro-israel
Based.
Very not based.
kinds of people that make monarchists wanting 200 year old german principalities back seem reasonable
This is why I shed no tears for any aristocracy that gets Romanov'd.
Has anyone tried telling them that supporting another genocide won't wash their hands of the Holocaust?
That's for their grandchildren to worry about.
They’re doing the George Michael move where they throw out a banana to compensate for stealing a dollar from the cash register. They think it balances the ledger, but it’s actually doubling the debit
Maybe I'm expecting too much from these people, but I'm assuming they don't actually know anything about Zionism or about the history of the Israeli state and just assume they're being attacked by evil terrorists with no provocation, just like what the bourgeois media tells them. Even today there is very little actual information about the colonization of Palestine in history books, they usually portray the whole thing as a religious conflict/response to the holocaust. I do think that the Zionists are finally starting to lose control of the narrative though, thanks to social media.
I've got a 1930 Atlas in my house with the territory clearly marked as Palestine. No Israel to be seen. Weird for an ancient conflict lasting a bazillion years or whatever!
It even gives demographic statistics. Out of the nearly 1 million people in 1930 living in British Palestine, 800,000 are Muslim and the remaining 200,000 are a mix of Jewish, Christian and other minority groups. Wonder what happened to 80% of the area being muslim! Weird how "a land without a people" had a million people on it!
TRANS- JORDAN
Allowing the common understanding of racism to be reduced to mere form, ie vulgar language and overt discrimination, has been disastrous for the real gains made in the late 20th century.
We gotta first of all enforce some standards for antifascist movements. As great as it is to build large numbers, it’s meaningless if there is no well defined, unifying ideology. I bet a lot of these “antifa” in Germany would not give a coherent definition of fascist.
Didn't happen in a vacuum.
"fascism is when not democracy. democracy is when private ownership of property."
They have anti-Nazi laws and then pass billion euro funding bills to give heavy weaponry and training to Nazis. Most coherent Westoid nation. Germany is going to have the most convoluted contradictions when the western world goes outright, openly fascist since they have been conditioned to be ashamed of their Nazi past while being proud of their Nazi present.
Germany is ok with fascism, they just got caught once and have to be a bit more careful
I actually think the Liberal-Fascists of Germany truly believe that the Nazis were bad but Nazism is good. They are that brain addled