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When the Chapos said we were cycling through the media of the 2000s, I didn't think it would mean this too.
His political takes are museum pieces at this point.
That's it. I must have spent more than a minute trying to think up a joke but I couldn't figure out how to phrase it.
I had a super-quickie look at this Wikipedia page. I'm surprised he is for a ceasefire. I expected he would have been basically silent on the Gaza war.
I'm surprised too to hear he supports a ceasefire. At a casual glance, I had come to associate him with the kind of resistance libs that were like "Iraq was bad but, Afghanistan is the good war." People who never have a comprehensive critique of American imperialism.
In saying the above comment about museum pieces, I was referring mostly to when he did stuff like the March to Restore Sanity. I used to hear that sort of bipartisanship fetishization during the early Obama years from mainstream liberals as a response to the Tea Party. It was so nauseating, especially as the hindsight piles on. It all just seems about preserving the status quo to me, that is not at going to get any of the reforms that he wants that we might agree with him on.
I think more people on the lib-left don't buy into it but, it's still the default attitude among the geriatric leadership class of the Democratic party.
That was on my mind too. Libs live in a fantasyland that gets more and more elaborate as they convince themselves that the old days were so much better and it would be great if we could get back to that.
The other day I heard a MNSBC talking head named Elie Mystal actually say something like "We need a strong republican party." What made it especially galling for me is that Mystal one of their legal experts who is by far the strongest, harshest critic of GOP justices on the supreme court. If he was just a tiny bit more bitter - he'd lose his MSNBC gig forever. Yet he's such a boneheaded institutionalist - he can't help but defend a system and a court that's nearly guaranteed to get more and more reactionary over time.
Mystal - like a typical lib - must make daily efforts to pretend he GOP was good before Trump showed up. Such libs must force away the reality that "good" republicans like the ex-president war criminal Dubya worked hard behind the scenes to put people like Kavanaugh on the court. And - of course - the GOP has wanted to kill Roe for decades.
i didn't expect to see the rehabilitation of george w bush.
if we're not all dead, i expect to see the rehabilitation of trump
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't Obama say this too?
EDIT: YEP! He was saying this shit in 2016 and probably still says it today, in between making phone calls to crush union efforts
I’ve heard Pelosi say it before, too. They need a strong Republican party to blame for their feigned inability to get us the things we want.
https://www.pbs.org/weta/washingtonweek/video/2016/03/obama-i-want-an-effective-republican-party
In their minds, liberals think of themselves as wise parents for Republicans. They think they're guiding poor lost conservatives into the enlightenment of liberalism.
In practice, liberals act like employees for republicans
Judging by clips frim his cable show, he absolutely destroys rich bastards and lays out every point case for the destruction of capitalism but always skips right past socialism as an alternative
Cold War mindset. That whole generation had it in general. I kind of feel pity for his horizons being limited in that way. The capitalists waged the Cold War mercilessly, which included producing some of the most potent propaganda in the history of mankind. He just can't break out of it, especially when his livelihood became intimately tied to their political institutions.
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Sure he kills children. But with integrity
The past few weeks have really made it sink in for me that we’re living through a decade with a worse cultural aura than the one where Shark Tale came out
I’ve used the aughts as a punching bag for so long to feel better about living in this era but the general feeling of malaise has gone on for too long for it to be a fluke of the transitional period from the 10s
Shark tale existed because they didn't know how to properly design a movie by committee yet. These days they've cracked that formula, so there's no crazy nonsense or bizzaro films anymore, it's all the same generic middle of the road slop.
That reminds of Frank Zappa in 1987 interview where he talked about "cigar-chomping old guys". The quote is not verbatim and it has some paraphrases. There doesn't seem to be a verbatim source. There's only copypasta with editorializing that annoyed me so I edited it.
Frank Zappa explains the decline of the music business - YouTube
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I've been watching vintage 2000's era Daily Show episodes
I remember going through some of those and being shocked at how many homo- and transphobic jokes were on it. It's like watching a movie from when they still used racial slurs in polite conversation.
There are two wolves inside Jon Stewart and they're basically this.
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