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[–] edge@hexbear.net 76 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

They still refuse to get rid of the name "Uyghur genocide" despite basically acknowledging that it is in no way a genocide and zero people have been killed.

[–] AOCapitulator@hexbear.net 18 points 9 months ago (1 children)

You don't need to kill people to do genocide, but yes correct

[–] emizeko@hexbear.net 19 points 9 months ago (2 children)

in support of your comment

Settlers always know what they are doing, of course; it was why they worked so hard to slaughter the buffalo: they wanted to kill indigeneity, not just individual indigenous people. A people who marked time and history by the buffalo could not survive in their collectivity without it. And so, as “Plenty Coups” of the Crow nation put it,

“When the buffalo went away the hearts of my people fell to the ground, and they could not lift them up again. After this nothing happened.”

His point was that without the buffalo—the object on and through which his people existed and made collective meaning—their history could not continue. Individuals could survive, as he had, but the people had (arguably) come to an end.

from https://thenewinquiry.com/blog/buffalo-skulls/

[–] CTHlurker@hexbear.net 15 points 9 months ago

Yeah, but that is also not really the allegation being made. The allegation against the CPC is that it's suppressing religious expression and doing so in a way that specifically seeks to eradicate the "traditional" culture of this specific ethnic minority. Most of the bluechecks who write about this "cultural erasure / genocide" also point to stuff like the lack of minarets on mosques, which technically means that Denmark is also doing genocide, since we have a strict ban on minarets specifically, which also includes the broadcasting of the Adhan/call to prayer.

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 3 points 9 months ago

Question: Regarding the buffalo issue on the Native Americans

You know, I always thought that disease spread to the Americas through battles and forced labor upon Indigenous people, instead of it being tragic and inevitable effect of contact between the colonists and them...

Do you suppose there's something more than just "Americapox killed most of the Indigenous, and the contact between the old and new worlds made it inevitable"?