Zionism is fascism, Biden is a fascist, but Biden ain't the one talking about declaring himself a dictator. Sure it's 99 vs 100% Hitler, but there is no other option. And my morals say that when you have a bad choice and a worse choice, you don't stand on pride and choose none just for the choice to be made for you.

[–] robinn_IV@hexbear.net 32 points 8 months ago (1 children)

but Biden ain't the one talking about declaring himself a dictator. Sure it's 99 vs 100% Hitler, but there is no other option.

Did Trump ever seriously talk about "declaring himself a dictator"? When you are only given the choices between 99 and 100% Hitler you reject the system and actually utilize the mass discontent instead of voting for the "least bad bad guys" regardless, effectively guaranteeing whatever they do is acceptable as long as they do not become the other guys.

[–] SmilingSolaris@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

https://apnews.com/article/trump-hannity-iowa-town-hall-d9cad413851b60f6c0abd2a564d86338

Yes, here is him saying it.

My personal or our group rejection of the system has no actual material effect except to make things worse. You can't just reject society without having the organized structure in place to actively rebel against it. Just not participating does nothing but make things worse.

Voting doesn't stop you from organizing, unionizing and joining local organizations. It does nothing at all but make things worse. Is your argument accelerationist? Do you want things to get bad before getting better? If not I don't see the point in your stance. I don't want to be mean, I don't mean to be rude. I genuinely do not understand. Do you not care what happens tomorrow?

[–] robinn_IV@hexbear.net 24 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Voting doesn't stop you from organizing, unionizing and joining local organizations. It does nothing at all but make things worse.

Freudian slip. It stops you from directing votes away from the two parties and showing that changes have to be made.

[–] SmilingSolaris@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 8 months ago

And who has to suffer in the meantime while we see if that gamble pays off? I'm just not willing to make that decision. I can't in good conscious knowing the fact that more people would suffer under trump than Biden. That's my simple calculus.

[–] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 18 points 8 months ago

Biden ain't the one talking about declaring himself a dictator.

This doesn't mean anything unless your head is still filled with magical liberal thinking. Either he has the power and support to be in power indefinitely or he doesn't. People who can and will do coups don't usually care about how you vote.

[–] Mokey@hexbear.net 15 points 8 months ago

There is another option lmao, it involves everything around a bourgeoisie democracy

[–] AssortedBiscuits@hexbear.net 14 points 8 months ago

And my morals say that when you have a bad choice and a worse choice, you don't stand on pride and choose none just for the choice to be made for you.

And my moral tells me that if I don't live in a small pool of like 6 states, there's absolutely no point in thinking about, let alone voting for, who gets to be president. Not all of us live in Georgia or Michigan. And unless you live in one of those 6 states, congrats, you've wasted your time and energy on something you have absolutely no control over.

[–] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

There is another option. The French knew that when their Kings and Queens told them to eat cake.

The fact you don't even consider that is sus. Gaslightng even.