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[–] robinn_IV@hexbear.net 94 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Ukraine has ten times the casualties

Just a complete lie. And of course it's "virtue signalling" to care about the suffering of others.

[–] CTHlurker@hexbear.net 82 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Honestly the sheer whiplash of going "caring about Palestine is virtue signaling only" and litterally in the same sentence going "Ukraine more important" is just perfect

[–] Magician@hexbear.net 77 points 8 months ago
[–] Dr_Gabriel_Aby@hexbear.net 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It’s a lie for civilian casualties, not for total casualties.

He’s logic is that I’m supposed to hold the same outrage for a 36 year old man in Azov Battalion as a 6 year old girl in Gaza.

[–] robinn_IV@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

That six year old girl was recruited by Hamas and it’s tragic but what can you do?

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

What are the casualty counts in the Ru/Nato war? I thought we were well in to the hundreds of thousands dead an injure at this point.

[–] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 20 points 8 months ago

well if you listen to Ukraine they've killed the entire Russian population twice over and only a few dozen of their boys got killed in the process

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 17 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

To be fair (and balanced), for casualties as a whole, 10x is an accurate figure if you take western news sources at face value.

In the Russo-Ukrainian war, the amount of disinformation makes this staggeringly hard to know; Adding up the estimates gives ranges somewhere between 150,000 and 1,000,000 deaths. It's important context to note, though, that these deaths are overwhelmingly military.

In terms of just civilian casualties, Palestinian casualties are 2-3x higher, in less than a quarter of the time, with less then a tenth the population.

Civilian casualties in the Russo-Ukrainian war are very roughly estimated at 30k-50k, out of 37m over two years. Civilian casualties in Palestine are at a minimum of 110k out of 2,300k in 5 months. Even if the IDF's own numbers are to be believed, that means >90% of casualties are non-militant civilians.

[–] Kieselguhr@hexbear.net 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Civilian casualties in the Russo-Ukrainian war

Casualties as in killed by the war? Because the numbers I've seen are ~10 thousand, which is comparable to the first month of the war in Iraq

[–] Swoosegoose@hexbear.net 2 points 8 months ago

Casualties referes to killed or injured

[–] CarbonScored@hexbear.net 8 points 8 months ago

If you believe western news sources, Ukraine does have about ten times the casualties. So in fairness I don't think it's a bald-faced lie by this guy in particular, more just western governments.