Gotta start wondering if Joey and the DMC et al are losing on purpose at this point. It would take nothing to win this presidency against Trump. 8 mean the barest break in the beatings would be enough for us plebs. But i think they kinda liked the open grift not to mention the donation train.

In a perverse way, a Trump presidency would legitimize the Dems (and this false democracy) for that much longer.

[–] 420blazeit69@hexbear.net 56 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Democrats are trying very hard to win while playing by the rules of capital and empire. They can't pivot to winning policies not because they are trying to lose, but because all the people who'd seriously consider those policies are drummed out of the party.

[–] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 38 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

This but also capitalism has reached a very late stage in the US and Bernie-esque policies, while probably still achievable in a practical sense, are probably enough of a threat to the interests of capital that it might have motivated Business Plot reboot or it's possible that it would disturb the fragile balance of the market enough that it might be enough to cause the house of cards to start collapsing.

Think like if the US nationalised healthcare or intervened in the real estate market and started providing public housing - there's a non-zero chance that this would pop a bubble in the market that would cause a ripple effect throughout the other bubbles like in the finance industry such as BlackRock which might just level entire sections of the US economy.

I'm lowkey hoping that Tesla goes belly-up in the near future and this is the catalyst for exactly what I'm describing above.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 28 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

America dying in a blowing up tesla would be extremely funny. I would be laughing in the bread line.

My lathe prediction is still bitcoin bailout

[–] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 22 points 7 months ago

I hadn't actually considered the poetic aspect of that until you mentioned it lol.

Could you imagine the psychic damage that Elon Musk would sustain if that happened?

The dude was so wounded when he got booed at that surprise appearance at a Dave Chapelle show that his staff nearly called a wellness check on him.

If Tesla not only sinks but it takes down a large part of the economy, or maybe it even levels the US economy, he would absolutely get scapegoated for it. If his reputation took a hit like that I think it would break his brain permanently.

[–] TechnoUnionTypeBeat@hexbear.net 43 points 7 months ago

Gotta start wondering if Joey and the DMC et al are losing on purpose at this point

Of course they are

It's easier to do $1000 a plate fundraising dinners about how evil the Trump Republicans are when you're fighting against them, far harder to do that shit when you're in power

[–] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 36 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Trump might destroy our alliance with Europe and weaken NATO and cause general chaos amongst the imperialists

[–] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 44 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

I had some degree of faith in this before but idk, he seemed to get reined in somewhere along the way after he started to stray too far from obstructing US foreign policy and into actively undermining it (think how he flipped on his position on the DPRK for some indiscernible reason - either he was on a grift and trying to woo the DPRK government and he entered into the following phase of trying to railroad his objectives with them and they said "Lol no" so Trump decided that they were terrible because they weren't willing to play ball in exactly how he demanded they should, or the CIA had had enough of his shenanigans and decided to show him the Zapruder extended cut or they dug up the Epstein Cinematic Universe movies that he was on set for during the recording and they said pull your shit in or we're really going to make you into a star.)

Whatever the truth of the matter is, I feel like his policy on this stuff shifted pretty significantly and kinda out of nowhere. The dude's clearly the most stable genius out there though so it's hard to tell whether there's something behind the scenes directly shaping these changes or if he's just a wrecking ball that's careening between one thing and the next.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 39 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Whether it's true or not the liberals believe it is true. They are genuinely scared of that outcome.

Somehow they are oblivious to how much damage Biden has done with the way Israel has been handled though.

[–] ReadFanon@hexbear.net 45 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

God I wish that everything that liberals believed was true. Just think about it:

Communists have infiltrated colleges, and maybe even the entire education system
China is planning an invasion of the US
Trump is going to destroy the US alliance with Europe and break up NATO
Communists are a large and well-organised enough that they can undermine elections and they have enough people influence to sway people's politics
Capitalism is good, actually, and it's going to improve the lives of people in the developing world and things are improving for the people of the US
Voting for the Democrats will stop fascism
The "good guys" are good and the "bad guys" are bad
All we need is to tweak at the dials in order to make things right
The global hegemon is a benevolent force in the world

Shit, don't threaten me with a good time...

You could randomly pick any one of these things and if you wished it into reality I'd be overjoyed at the outcome.

[–] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 10 points 7 months ago

God I know that feeling

Back when I was a radlib I would sometimes think "I don't believe in the American dream but I really wish I could"

[–] sisatici@hexbear.net 11 points 7 months ago

I think biden knows he would not have won even if he did not allow any genocide so he is doing whatever he wants to do. I remember his polling sucked even before all of this