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In a speech to the soldiers of the 1st Galician division, Heinrich Himmler stated:

Your homeland has become so much more beautiful since you have lost – on our initiative, I must say – those residents who were so often a dirty blemish on Galicia's good name, namely the Jews ... I know that if I ordered you to liquidate the Poles ... I would be giving you permission to do what you are eager to do anyway.

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[–] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I can't even laugh at this. It's fucking horrifying. Rehabilitating the literal goddamn SS is the mainstream political consensus now and anyone alarmed about this is ostracized for "spreading Putin's propaganda." All the libs will turn into full-blown Nazis in my lifetime and they'll still think they're the real antifascists because they'll hate Cheeto Drumpf and Putler.

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's wild that a take as tame as "fuck the nazis" is remotely controversial when a decade ago, literally everyone that wasn't an open skinhead would've agreed with it

[–] Coolkidbozzy@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

hitler promised them they'd never be used to attack the western allies because of their fervent anticommunism, and they ran like cowards from the soviets in the end

Most of the Ukrainian soldiers were interned in Rimini, Italy, in the area controlled by the II Polish Corps. The UNA commander Pavlo Shandruk requested a meeting with Polish general Władysław Anders a prewar Polish Army colleague, asking him to protect the army against the deportation to Soviet Union. There is credible evidence that despite Soviet pressure, Anders managed to protect the Ukrainian troops, as former citizens of the Second Republic of Poland. This, together with the intervention of the Vatican prevented its members from being deported to the USSR. Bishop Buchko of the Ukrainian Greek Catholic Church had appealed to Pope Pius XII to intervene on behalf of the division, whom he described as "good Catholics and fervent anti-Communists". Due to Vatican intervention, the British authorities changed the status of the division members from POW to surrendered enemy personnel.

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The Vatican sure protected a lot of Nazis

[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

Imagine a world in which Stalin had made it past Berlin

[–] FnordPrefect@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

For anyone interested in the topic, Operation Gladio: The Unholy Alliance between the Vatican, the CIA, and the Mafia by Paul Williams is a pretty fun read

[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

Wonder if this might be causing some friction between Polish natives and their new Ukrainian migrant neighbors.

[–] Maoo@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

I wonder how someone deemed criminal during Nuremberg ended up happy in Canada. And Ukrainian, no less. Must've been a wacky set of coincidences.

[–] JuneFall@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

I did a small comment about the "commission" wich found the Nazis as not guilty. It was a farce and you can find it in my profile. Don't believe anyone who says the commission found the unit "not guilty" that is wrong, as it implies a lawful process.

[–] Fishroot@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

https://archive.ph/YVQ34#selection-1867.0-1867.291

red-brown alliance is real and bad

yeah but lib-brown alliance? that's complicated and it is a sign of protecting marginal class against the soviet