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[–] CredibleBattery@hexbear.net 3 points 1 hour ago

stalin-stressed the fuck happened in 2018

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 4 points 1 hour ago

There's parts of the country that are so uniformally conservative that virtually the only way to encounter outside views is through the internet. Doubly so if you're a kid growing up sheltered by conservative parents.

[–] ThanksObama5223@hexbear.net 17 points 6 hours ago

I know I shouldn't be surprised but these numbers are staggering. Even the group of buddies I grew up with, half of which have shitty opinions, wouldn't agree with this shit. I think there's something to be said on men challenging men on their dogshit beliefs or at least not sitting by silently that impacts this. To hear incorrect views without rebutting them and even to hear counter-revolutionary remarks without reporting them, but instead to take them calmly as if nothing had happened. This is a sixth type.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 7 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

8th and 10th grade

I'm not AmeriKKKan but isn't that like 12 year olds?

[–] procapra@lemm.ee 6 points 6 hours ago
[–] Horse@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

8th is 13-14, 10th is 15-16

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 5 points 6 hours ago

Oh lol, still young as shit.. I'd hope they'd grow out of it, but these days... not looking too good.

[–] abc@hexbear.net 62 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

not saying that this may not be true but in general i think Hexbears should be banned from posting studies done by Substack data analysts lmao

[–] dat_math@hexbear.net 26 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

there's lies, damned lies, and substacks

[–] Collatz_problem@hexbear.net 2 points 4 hours ago

Substatistics kelly

[–] AcidLeaves@hexbear.net 22 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

I've heard that younger zoomers and younger are very gender segregated in social interactions. Friend groups are more singular gendered, parties will have less mixed gender conversations, etc.

It's possible that boys with a more active social life means they actually disproportionately interact with other boys more, while the online ones may actually interact with girls more, especially since lots more girls are in popular younger online spaces now like Tiktok and Roblox

[–] Wisp@hexbear.net 1 points 1 hour ago

are very gender segregated in social interactions. Friend groups are more singular gendered, parties will have less mixed gender conversations, etc

Hasn’t this not been the case for a long while?

[–] Adkml@hexbear.net 32 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

That makes sense I stopped hanging out with most of my high school friends after college because they were a bunch of chuds. Last time I saw something from their group chat somebody was unironically complaining about dei.

Turns out spending time with a bunch of chuds makes you think and act like a chud.

[–] very_poggers_gay@hexbear.net 16 points 8 hours ago

and its the same mfers that complain about echo chambers

[–] Sinisterium@hexbear.net 41 points 10 hours ago

Hegemonic patriarchy is maintained & spread through homosocial interaction. This is obvious when you certain cis straight men get comfortable enough to "air out".

[–] StillNoLeftLeft@hexbear.net 80 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Reminds me of the Will to Change and how it was stated in it that in pathriarchy peers will scold a boy into pathriarchal outlooks and norms if they try to steer away from them.

[–] grendahlgrendahlgen@hexbear.net 54 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Under patriarchy, gender is a prison and boys train each other to be the prison guards.

[–] Sinisterium@hexbear.net 29 points 10 hours ago

gender surveillance culture is real.

[–] huf@hexbear.net 29 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

yeah, not beating the bounds of masculinity is itself gay, so you're pressured into calling random stuff gay. basically that's it, except replace "gay" with whatever is topical. the world is split into two anyway, with bicycles and gay people on one side and trucks and steaks on the other.

[–] Guamer@hexbear.net 23 points 10 hours ago (6 children)
[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 16 points 9 hours ago

hi bi and like steak, i'm le_wokisme

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 14 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

If Hexbear ended up making you vegan, would this be partriarchy?

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[–] Keld@hexbear.net 16 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Ur cancelled

Or you have to like eating steak while riding your bicycle

[–] 7bicycles@hexbear.net 8 points 9 hours ago

time to get into bicycles

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[–] 9to5@hexbear.net 36 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Another win for the loners joker-gaming

[–] dat_math@hexbear.net 46 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (3 children)

going to play basketball with your treatler friends (if you're a boy, with high probability most of these other little treatlers are also boys) and bullshitting with eachother to see who can verbalize the edgiest insult in the group is not exactly touching grass, but I think is common enough that similar experiences could explain the difference

the belief that people of different sexes couldn't be friends without someone wanting sex (regardless of reciprocation) was pervasive when I was a young person and I expect people have only grown more attached to the illusion as time proceeds, so (at least in amerikkka) there's also this social pressure to congregate with people of the same sex when "hanging out with friends", which probably amplifies the effect

[–] Sinisterium@hexbear.net 17 points 10 hours ago

the belief that people of different sexes couldn't be friends without someone wanting sex (regardless of reciprocation) was pervasive when I was a young person and I expect people have only grown more attached to the illusion as time proceeds, so (at least in amerikkka) there's also this social pressure to congregate with people of the same sex when "hanging out with friends", which probably amplifies the effect

I am from europe and gen z and this was the case when I was young too. Hell even nowdays some people still believe that. I was called gay for simplying having female friends (I mean I am, but still a 10-year old doesnt really know that yet).

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 23 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

the belief that people of different sexes couldn't be friends without someone wanting sex

this shit is so lame

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 26 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (4 children)

Why can't they just consciously recognize "I find them attractive and I totally would if they were up for it, but they aren't, and that's okay" and then let it go?

[–] fox@hexbear.net 19 points 10 hours ago

Or even just "this person is attractive but I'm not interested in changing our relationship"

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 12 points 9 hours ago

that phrase is equivalent to "wanting sex", it's just the healthy expression of it because of all the extra words.

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 21 points 10 hours ago

Because then their friends call them f-slurs and tell everyone they’re gay for not wanting to have wild sex with every attractive girl/woman they come across.

[–] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 13 points 10 hours ago

I doubt most incels make it to the actual rejection part.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 22 points 11 hours ago

Also self-defeating because if you never hang out with the opposite gender unless you’re trying to go for sexytime, you’re going to be bad at it. You need the low stakes experience first.

[–] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 38 points 12 hours ago

bullshitting with eachother to see who can verbalize the edgiest insult in the group

yea

[–] starlight32@hexbear.net 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 53 minutes ago) (1 children)

>people who spend less time hanging out with moids are less likely to be misogynists

surprised-pika

[–] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 10 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 6 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

moids means men/boys. They're saying it isn't surprising people who spend more time with (other) men are more sexist. That men are a bad influence on other men.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 19 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

So does this mean the influence of the manosphere is overblown? Or at the very least, that the discourse surrounding it has the cause and effect reversed; it doesn’t brainwash unsuspecting equity-minded young men into becoming chauvinistic, but rather young men who are already misogynistic flock to it to get their biases confirmed.

[–] Sinisterium@hexbear.net 34 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

certain men/boys get radicalized through the manosphere and then spread it through social pressure amongst their peers. And its not the "contemptuous" basement dwellers, who are already not compliant with patriarchal norms. A lot of "normal" attractive men with plenty of hobbies, success in career/schools and are absolute incel & chuds.

The most reactionary shithead, I knew, was a toned tan surfer dude who was in the top percentile of high achieving students in our university. And that respect he gained from teachers and other peers, allowed to basically speak his filth uninterrupted and even the more "lib" students & teachers agreed/allowed him.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 1 points 4 hours ago

Yeah I’m sure it happens. I guess it’s a question of, is it mostly “normie” kids seduced into manosphere bullshit? Or are these already misogynistic little shits and the manosphere is just giving them a structure for their chud mentality?

[–] huf@hexbear.net 23 points 10 hours ago

yeah, what if it wasnt the internet all along but just baseline patriarchal men's "culture"

[–] inTheShadowOf@hexbear.net 17 points 11 hours ago (4 children)

The cis boys just need to transition. It would fix so many issues.

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 9 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Found Elle's account

Dorley Hall convinced me that more leftists would read theory if there was a forcefem basement in it

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