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Iraq dominated the headlines throughout the fall of 2002 and into the winter of 2003. Public opinion on the wisdom of war, however, stabilized relatively early and slightly in favor of war. Gallup found that from August 2002 through early March 2003 the share of Americans favoring war hovered in a relatively narrow range between a low of 52 percent and a high of 59 percent. By contrast, the share of the public opposed to war fluctuated between 35 percent and 43 percent.

Looks like Americans are even more happy with murdering people if its done by a puppet.

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/rally-round-the-flag-opinion-in-the-united-states-before-and-after-the-iraq-war/

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[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 113 points 11 months ago

Americans don't believe in anything, half of them can barely read, if you asked them whether Israel was justified in butchering 800 children the poll would most likely flip with 70% saying no, if you asked whether Israel has a "right to self-defense" without any qualification, probably 90% would say yes

If you asked them if Israel has the right to genocide the Palestinians, 50% would say "not sure" and 50% would say no, but 40% would vote yes if it was a closed ballot referendum item

Americans are incoherent lotus eaters who think the height of political intellectualism is enlightened centrism with "remote drone bombing" characteristics

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 29 points 11 months ago

“Were IDF soldiers Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold justified in entering a Hamas school? 85% says yes”

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[-] Flinch@hexbear.net 83 points 11 months ago

Country built on genocide supports genocide shocked-pikachu

[-] newmou@hexbear.net 81 points 11 months ago

60% of those people don’t even know what Palestine is

[-] thirtymilliondeadfish@hexbear.net 77 points 11 months ago

where that train derailed, right?

[-] newmou@hexbear.net 41 points 11 months ago

Lmao oh yeah

[-] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 30 points 11 months ago

if they can remember that far back in time

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[-] darkmode@hexbear.net 76 points 11 months ago

Poll: 70% of bed bugs are currently thirsty for blood

[-] DayOfDoom@hexbear.net 42 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This is what I'm talking about. Finally, someone understands on this website.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 24 points 11 months ago

70% of bedbugs currently in France

[-] wombat@hexbear.net 69 points 11 months ago

usians are the most propagandized people on earth

[-] Kuhelika@lemmygrad.ml 48 points 11 months ago

Random usain :What propaganda?

People who can think: Exactly

[-] MineDayOff@hexbear.net 69 points 11 months ago

While arguing with a co-worker about how what Israel is doing to oppress the Palestinians and how they have been pushed to this point, he asked me if I thought the Holocaust actually happened. It is beyond their comprehension that anyone would have any other opinion and it's easier to just assume I'm some weird conspiracy theorist.

[-] ComradeFlygon@lemmygrad.ml 52 points 11 months ago

I got the same thing. I was talking about how Israel has historically treated Palestinians and was asked if I was a Holocaust denier.

They couldn't comprehend how I thought Israel was capable of doing those things when the Jewish people were victims themselves not too long ago.

I don't get the logic.

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[-] emizeko@hexbear.net 67 points 11 months ago

what percentage of Americans could tell you what the Nakba was? 5%?

[-] Kereru@hexbear.net 59 points 11 months ago

Could 5% of Americans find Palestine on a map?

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[-] TomBombadil@hexbear.net 31 points 11 months ago

5% would be incredibly impressive considering what I know about Americans

[-] ZapataCadabra@hexbear.net 24 points 11 months ago

I think a solid third of Americans would think it's a racial slur.

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[-] Coolkidbozzy@hexbear.net 58 points 11 months ago

majority of americans support whatever they are told to support by the president and mass media

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[-] lemmyseizethemeans@lemmygrad.ml 53 points 11 months ago

Remember who they are polling, who answers their landlines, who picks up a phone from 'unknown'

It's boomers, folks

[-] aaro@hexbear.net 39 points 11 months ago

The CNN poll surveyed 1,003 adults via text message, and only surveyed adults with mobile phones. It has a margin of error of plus or minus 4.0 percentage points.

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[-] Bay_of_Piggies@hexbear.net 53 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Propagandists trotting out the fact that their propaganda worked, while fudging the results to make their propaganda look even more effective as a way to further their propaganda campaign.

[-] ZapataCadabra@hexbear.net 52 points 11 months ago

The poll also shows that it's only 27% in ages 18-34. Every age range is less and less propagandized on Israel. So that's nice.

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 36 points 11 months ago

Boomers definitely have some type of brain poison on the Israel issue, they collectively all just are evil on this issue

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 24 points 11 months ago

Lead poisoning is the blight of the age and it isn't taken seriously enough

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[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 49 points 11 months ago

Cool guess I hate 70% of Americans now

[-] DayOfDoom@hexbear.net 47 points 11 months ago

Always should have.

[-] Grownbravy@hexbear.net 42 points 11 months ago

70% of americans astronaut-1

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[-] TheModerateTankie@hexbear.net 49 points 11 months ago

I wonder if the news portraying palestinians as a turbo-raping, baby-beheading, anti-semetic zombie horde has anything to do with public opinion?

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 26 points 11 months ago

News be like: Surely they won't buy the 'enemy of the week #143 are also rapists' bit again are they?

Americans: YOU BETTER KEEP THAT SLOP COMING!

[-] drhead@hexbear.net 38 points 11 months ago

That is a very open ended question so it shouldn't be that surprising that the results are like this. What part of the response are we talking about? Are we talking about whether it is justified for Israel to respond at all? Are we talking about whether the severity of their response is warranted? Who the fuck knows! Probably a lot more of the people who interpret it as the first would agree with the poll.

The propaganda is how this will be presented as 70% of Americans being pro-Israel, which this poll does not demonstrate.

[-] very_poggers_gay@hexbear.net 34 points 11 months ago

I hate these public opinion polls that: 1. Demonstrate how effective the prior waves of propaganda was were for informing the general public's opinion, and 2. Are themselves wielded by propagandists who show them off like "This is the popular/common opinion, so it must be [good], [correct],[normal], [popular], etc."

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 30 points 11 months ago

Thinking Israel is justified to respond at all is pro-Israel given the history of the nation

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[-] ThomasMuentzner@hexbear.net 37 points 11 months ago

every american is a legitemate target , good to know..

[-] krolden@lemmy.ml 36 points 11 months ago

Fake polls. The fakest polls around. Nobody asked me.

[-] jimmyjazx@hexbear.net 32 points 11 months ago

New law making it illegal to answer no

[-] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 28 points 11 months ago

70% of 320,000,000 is 224,000,000

how tf are we going to build a gulag big enough for a quarter billion people

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 30 points 11 months ago

a lot of people dont really have strongly held beliefs, they just go with the status quo

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[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 24 points 11 months ago

Maybe we build a big wall

It'd be expensive though maybe Mexico can chip in

[-] Venus@hexbear.net 21 points 11 months ago

That bell curve meme where the lowest end is "we need to build a wall" and the middle is "building a wall is expensive and would solve nothing" and the high end is "we need to build a wall"

[-] RamrodBaguette@hexbear.net 27 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Most Americans just look what’s on the news then get on with their day. The technical majority of public opinion alone doesn’t translate into political power when most people are generally apathetic beyond some performative politics to inject some engagement into their socially-starved lives.

In fact, it being only 70% (or even 80%) is likely a cause of concern for the state which used to enjoy near-unanimous support from the electorate in this issue in particular and calling Israel an apartheid state was something only kooks would say. Especially when pro-Palestinian and pro-ceasefire demonstrations have been met with state violence almost immediately (and so far look to be growing as the media consensus is cracking).

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[-] HarryLime@hexbear.net 25 points 11 months ago

That's actually smaller than I would have thought given the propaganda environment

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